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T}{OR 02-03-2011 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luftwaffepilot (Post 219862)
When I install it on my machine, then upgrade it totally with OS reinstall, will I be able to install it again without problems?
I'm heavily confused by the part in bold letters.

Yes. The way I understood it you get to install it 5 times a month.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireflyerz (Post 219863)
Tages system .... http://www.tagesprotection.com/main.htm .... good greif.

Very interesting...

addman 02-03-2011 02:38 PM

Damn it! I re-install my games 6 times a month, guess it's a no buy for me then.;)

Dano 02-03-2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSwede (Post 219879)
If you have played the original scripted campaign in Il2 there is a switch where you can turn on/off "Mission success" or something.

I dont think they develop a full blown simulator and throws in a arcade "kill 10 bombers before next level!!!" feature.

Its just common sense. Dont panic.

Was added at a later point as already mentioned, also the scripted missions in IL2 were able to be branched so you had could have a different set of missions each time you played it, hopefully CoD will use the same system.

Royraiden 02-03-2011 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addman (Post 219901)
Damn it! I re-install my games 6 times a month, guess it's a no buy for me then.;)

Why do you re install so much and so often?

addman 02-03-2011 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royraiden (Post 219904)
Why do you re install so much and so often?

LOL! It was a joke, aimed at those who don't "condone" DRM, so to speak.:grin:

Royraiden 02-03-2011 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addman (Post 219906)
LOL! It was a joke, aimed at those who don't "condone" DRM, so to speak.:grin:

Lol ok.

JG52Uther 02-03-2011 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T}{OR (Post 219896)
Yes. The way I understood it you get to install it 5 times a month.



The way it has been explained at ubi is:

''You get 5 activations, however once you've used them all you may have one new re install once a month there after. So even after you've used your first 5 activations you are still able to install and activate the game, its simply limited in frequency.''

T}{OR 02-03-2011 03:23 PM

That is how ms-kleaneasy understands it.

Quote:

Bear in mind I've not used it this is my understanding from what I've been told.
I see it the way I posted. You use all 5, and then after 5 months you have 5 more. Hopefully I am right, because one install only every months doesn't sound very good.

JG52Uther 02-03-2011 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T}{OR (Post 219923)
That is how ms-kleaneasy understands it.



I see it the way I posted. You use all 5, and then after 5 months you have 5 more. Hopefully I am right, because one install only every months doesn't sound very good.

I would prefer your way.Imagine installing CoD to a hard drive that then fails,and having to wait a month before you can install it again...

fireflyerz 02-03-2011 04:02 PM

No. no . no , its not poll tax , its community charge , there not the same ....I promise :rolleyes:

T}{OR , check in on that thread at UBI and see if my Question got answered , this kinda crap gets my goat ......I buy disk , I put in Pc , I play , I goto airfield , I put disk in , I no INWEB connextion , I no play , why not - I buy disc , I buy expesive PC to play disc on , now I must buy Google as well:rolleyes:

T}{OR 02-03-2011 04:10 PM

lol can your post be more confusing? :)

Anyway, I don't see what is the big deal? You activate once after you install the game and that is all, go offline and enjoy the game - next time you don't need to be online to play/start the game. The problem here (we don't have the exact answer) is how many activations you have after the initial 5. Do the new activations accumulate every month until they reach 5 in total or do we just have one per month afterwards. Hope we get an answer soon.

fireflyerz 02-03-2011 04:46 PM

Well T}{OR I remember being at school , seeing a BBC GreenScreen for the first time and thinking....."PAH , this will NEVER catch on....yes im from that generation , how wrong was I , so all this is just more pointless tedium I have to deal with .

mcmatt 02-03-2011 04:50 PM

Happy!

The Kraken 02-03-2011 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T}{OR (Post 219939)
lol can your post be more confusing? :)

Anyway, I don't see what is the big deal? You activate once after you install the game and that is all, go offline and enjoy the game - next time you don't need to be online to play/start the game. The problem here (we don't have the exact answer) is how many activations you have after the initial 5. Do the new activations accumulate every month until they reach 5 in total or do we just have one per month afterwards. Hope we get an answer soon.

Well we also don't know if "activations" and "installations" are the same; I assume they are but there are DRM schemes which make a difference between both. No surprise here that Ubi isn't able to clarify this. Maybe we're lucky and the 1C version will be available somehow outside of Russia and use a less restrictive system (Steam?).

whatnot 02-03-2011 06:50 PM

"IL2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover requires a onetime online activation, using the Tages system you will receive 5 activations and a new install every month."

What's the big deal with this?

1) Install
2) Activate
3) Play and enjoy online or offline

And if you want you can repeat that four more times and if that's not enough you do it once a month after that.

In which real life scenario those limitations would get you in trouble? I assume re-install & activation on the same pc does not increment the counter.

JG52Uther 02-03-2011 07:23 PM

Will the Russian version even have DRM?

mazex 02-03-2011 08:17 PM

Come on?

A system with 5 activations for the complete morons here that reinstalls their computer every week or can't decide if they want it installed on their usual rig or the media center and change their mind every week? And then you get a new activation each month if you messed up bad that first month and reinstall again month 2. You botch that install AGAIN month three and get another one???

Battlefront uses a similar system for the Combat Mission series, and I have never used more than one activation... During the "once every two years reinstall" of my OS I deactivate my licence and then activate it again on the new install. If you have to use 5 activations + one more every month you need serious help.

SEE 02-03-2011 09:34 PM

5 + 1 a month? Could it be that the publishers are simply allowing for the possibilty of some people being unfortunate enough to experience a corrupt file/updates/ DLC, etc, during a download that could possibly affect the main install?

addman 02-06-2011 07:53 AM

When Oleg mentioned that 4GB+ is needed for a smooth gaming experience my wallet started crying LOL! I have an Athlon IIx3@2,7, Radeon HD4670 512 and 4 gigs of RAM. Being poor as I am at the moment a new graphics card would've been a hefty investment for me and now maybe even more RAM (even though RAM is cheap now). Also I need a more powerful PSU if I'll upgrade the graphics card. When I built this computer I had low budget, low energy consumption on my priority list, most games I play Far Cry 2, L4D 2, Company of Heroes, SH 3/4, AvP all run at medium to high settings. I really hope CoD will be somewhat playable on medium settings (without AA), I have a feeling that I might have to scale it back even more though :( Hope Oleg and team manages to make the game playable for us on the lower mid-range scale, guess I'll just have to avoid flying over London and other big cities :)

robtek 02-06-2011 09:41 AM

This game, and it's engine, are developed for the future.
Afaik OM has a history with that, remember IL2-Sturmovik in 2001 and it's needs concerning computer power?
I think there are so many nuggets hidden in the code that high-end pc's in 5 years are still getting shown their limits.
So, on a regular med to lower high-end pc today you will to have balance playability with eye-candy.
I really dont think that even the reduced eye-candy will disappoint anybody except maybe Tree_UK :-D.

David198502 02-06-2011 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addman (Post 220964)
When Oleg mentioned that 4GB+ is needed for a smooth gaming experience my wallet started crying LOL! I have an Athlon IIx3@2,7, Radeon HD4670 512 and 4 gigs of RAM. Being poor as I am at the moment a new graphics card would've been a hefty investment for me and now maybe even more RAM (even though RAM is cheap now). Also I need a more powerful PSU if I'll upgrade the graphics card. When I built this computer I had low budget, low energy consumption on my priority list, most games I play Far Cry 2, L4D 2, Company of Heroes, SH 3/4, AvP all run at medium to high settings. I really hope CoD will be somewhat playable on medium settings (without AA), I have a feeling that I might have to scale it back even more though :( Hope Oleg and team manages to make the game playable for us on the lower mid-range scale, guess I'll just have to avoid flying over London and other big cities :)

im concerned about the same thing!i have a core i5-650,3,2GHz,Dual Core prozessor,4GB of DDR3-RAM and a SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5570 with 1024MB.i think that i wont be able to fly over populated areas without a freezing screen even on medium or low settings.and my budget to improve my hardware is pretty limited at the time.lets hope oleg and team will do some more magic moves to optimise the game for us until its finished.

Baron 02-06-2011 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addman (Post 220964)
When Oleg mentioned that 4GB+ is needed for a smooth gaming experience my wallet started crying LOL! I have an Athlon IIx3@2,7, Radeon HD4670 512 and 4 gigs of RAM. Being poor as I am at the moment a new graphics card would've been a hefty investment for me and now maybe even more RAM (even though RAM is cheap now). Also I need a more powerful PSU if I'll upgrade the graphics card. When I built this computer I had low budget, low energy consumption on my priority list, most games I play Far Cry 2, L4D 2, Company of Heroes, SH 3/4, AvP all run at medium to high settings. I really hope CoD will be somewhat playable on medium settings (without AA), I have a feeling that I might have to scale it back even more though :( Hope Oleg and team manages to make the game playable for us on the lower mid-range scale, guess I'll just have to avoid flying over London and other big cities :)


"CoD usually sits at around 1.8 Gigs in the memory. I don't think I've ever seen it go anywhere near 3 gigs." ;)

brando 02-06-2011 10:00 AM

I wonder if my Acronis True Image software would enable me to store a copy of the activated game?

SEE 02-06-2011 11:38 AM

I have 32bit XP with 4Gb (AFAIK not all of this can be accessed by the OS for applications) but the spec does support XP OS even with its RAM limit. I will wait and see how it all pans out regards performance on my rig - I'm not going to worry about it thats for sure. Once it's released there will be plenty of feedback regards systems/specs and game performance. I will order CoD when all that is actually fedback from enthusiasts.

JAMF 02-06-2011 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron (Post 220986)
"CoD usually sits at around 1.8 Gigs in the memory. I don't think I've ever seen it go anywhere near 3 gigs." ;)

Running a 32Bit exe on a 64Bit OS is limited to 2GB, if that 32Bit exe is not programmed with the LAA flag. ;)

Cloyd 02-07-2011 12:22 AM

A serious question about POS hardware...
 
I run IL2 '46 at 1280x960 perfect. I get ~30fps average on the Black Death track. I have a P4 @2.8 GHz, nVidia 7600 GT AGP 8X 512MB, 2GB of generic memory.

I turn off a lot of stuff:
No Chatter
No AA
No AF
Effects=1
Water=1
Forests=2

Note to you HARDWARE HOs: I have been playing IL2 since the beginning, I have ALWAYS played it on POS hardware, always trying to squeeze out every FPS, or fraction thereof. Don't bother telling me I need to spend $1K on hardware to run $50 software. I KNOW!

I didn't bother with RoF because even people with up-to-date hardware were having problems running it. I will probably buy CloD anyway. I will upgrade eventually, in a year or two.

Care to speculate on what FPS I might get on absolute lowest settings, on an empty map, just me joyriding? Do you think I should just pass, not buy it?

Cloyd

Royraiden 02-07-2011 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloyd (Post 221230)
I run IL2 '46 at 1280x960 perfect. I get ~30fps average on the Black Death track. I have a P4 @2.8 GHz, nVidia 7600 GT AGP 8X 512MB, 2GB of generic memory.

I turn off a lot of stuff:
No Chatter
No AA
No AF
Effects=1
Water=1
Forests=2

Note to you HARDWARE HOs: I have been playing IL2 since the beginning, I have ALWAYS played it on POS hardware, always trying to squeeze out every FPS, or fraction thereof. Don't bother telling me I need to spend $1K on hardware to run $50 software. I KNOW!

I didn't bother with RoF because even people with up-to-date hardware were having problems running it. I will probably buy CloD anyway. I will upgrade eventually, in a year or two.

Care to speculate on what FPS I might get on absolute lowest settings, on an empty map, just me joyriding? Do you think I should just pass, not buy it?

Cloyd

Tough situation you got there.I say wait till it is released and see how budget pc's run it and then decide.

Ploughman 02-07-2011 01:15 AM

Bummer about your hardware there. I spent years with a Pentium 1.4 and would max out with five or six machine's in the air at any one time. I didn't even know what flak was untill a 2008 upgrade, now mine's a bit old again but at least is in with a decent chance of running CloD. Nevertheless, even if my machine was hopeless and I was a year or more away from replacing it I'd still buy 'Cliffs of Dover' if only to send some money Oleg's way and help to ensure he and his team keep at what they do best.

Blackdog_kt 02-07-2011 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T}{OR (Post 219939)
Do the new activations accumulate every month until they reach 5 in total or do we just have one per month afterwards. Hope we get an answer soon.

That's the main issue really.

Scenario 1:
You get 5 initial activations. When they are finished, you get one activation per month and that's it. If you don't use them up they don't add up, it's just one per month.

Scenario 2:
You get 5 initial activations. You use one the first time you install the game so you are left with 4. However, a month later it pops back up to 5. After one more month it doesn't go to 6 but stays at 5, as that is the maximum number allowed.

I prefer the second option, mainly because if IL2 is anything to go by there will be a lot of people having multiple installations at some point in time.
That is unless we can somehow backup the activation key, or the activation has a global effect for all installations on a single PC.

To be honest i don't think i'll need more than 5 in a year under normal circumstances, but then i still dislike being limited in what i can do with something i paid for:
If mods are handled in a different manner now that we're getting built-in modding support then it might not be an issue, but if it gets to be anything similar to IL2 down the line i can easily see squads who fly in tournaments with different modpacks using up three in a single month.

For example, if activations don't have a system-wide effect but each installation needs its own separate activation and using IL2 as an analogy, it's easy to see what happens with a squad who regularly flies 4.09 with modpack A, 4.10 stock and 4.09 with modpack B.

speculum jockey 02-07-2011 03:06 AM

See this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royraiden (Post 221233)
Tough situation you got there.I say wait till it is released and see how budget pc's run it and then decide.

This is the answer to all hardware questions posed by people considering upgrades or building a new system. I think it should be posted in a sticky that forces all forum members to view it before posting. Those of you who are still asking, read the following.

Cheapos: If you have a dual core system running faster than 2.4GHZ, and card made in the last two years, and 2GB of memory then you're going to be able to play it, but don't expect much in the way of eye candy.

Midrange: If you have a newer i5/7/AMD equivalent, a card made in the last year, and 4GB of memory then you're going to be playing it pretty decently.

More money than brains: If you spend 1K tomorrow on the fastest processer with 16GB of the most overpriced RAM, a SSD Drive, and 4 of the top of the line cards SLI/Crossfired then you're going to be able to play it maxed with a pretty crazy-large resolution.

FAQs

Q: Should I invest in a new system.

A: Depends on a few things. . . Can you afford it? What do you have now? How do you want to run it?

If you can afford to do it, then go for it. It's your money. If you have a year old gaming system and you don't need to play it on a 27" Dell monitor then you're probably going to be fine. If you want high resolution and everything maxed then you're going to have to spend some money. WAIT AND SEE before dropping a few hundred or thousand on a new system.

Q: Should I SLI/Crossfire to get better performance?

A: To most of you, "No". Luthier said the other day that SLI/CF might not give you any performance gains. Generally speaking Multi GPUs/Cards are for people who will be gaming on multiple monitors or at huge resolutions. We don't know if 1xGPU=20fps and 2xGPU=40fps. Maybe there is a huge gain, maybe you just spent $200 for an additional 5fps? WAIT AND SEE before buying another card.

Q: Should I get the latest and greatest Intel/AMD CPU?

A: All depends on your cashflow and your needs. Are you playing this thing jacked will all things enabled and full object counts? Then yes, spend away! From what we've heard it seems that the CPU might be the component that makes the most difference when upgrading. Will having a 2 core system at 4GHZ be better than a 4 core system at 3.5 GHZ? WAIT AND SEE before buying a new CPU.

Q: Should I get another XGB of RAM?

A: Maybe. Luthier said that COD was pushing 1.8GB of RAM Max, but who knows how streamlined it will get in the next month or how much it will expand in the next year. If you have 2GB, you might want to test the waters first. . . then the land. It's dependent on options enabled, so maybe. Given the price of RAM right now I'd probably go with 4GB since I'm sure additional content will be memory hungry. Should you get 8GB of RAM? It's your cash, but I don't see a gaming rig needing more than 4GB of RAM in the next few years.

Q: I'm going to be smart and wait to build a system, but how will I know what will run COD at 60fps at my ideal resolution?

A: Come to these forums and ask people what they are using and what frames they are getting. Maybe Toms Hardware or another site will use COD as their new "Killer App" to test their rigs. Maybe "Can you run it" will add COD and it will tell you what systems run it decently.

Q: What's the big deal in waiting? If I build a killer rig now or 6 months from now I'll still have a killer rig, but I won't be playing that game for 1/2 a year.

A: It all comes down to how much you want to play COD and how much you value your money. If you have the cash, build your rig now. If you want to be a bit more frugal, cool your jets and play the waiting game.

On average, waiting 6 months to build a system typically gets you equal or better frames per second at about 1/2 the price for the gaming components. This depends on the speed Intel/AMD/Nvidia/ATI release their new flagship products and how aggressive they want to be in their pricing. Sometimes you have to wait a year to get it 1/2 off, and sometimes a new product comes along that makes everyone want to get rid of current stock.

Monitors, power supplies, RAM, hard disks, and even mainboards don't really drop in price that often or that fast. Usually it takes some sort of radical new format from Intel or AMD to make all these manufacturers drop prices and start changing their products to keep up.

In summation, it all come down to two simple formulas

Interest in Game + Ability to Wait < Money = Upgrade
Interest in Game + Ability to Wait > Money = Wait for Upgrade


If you're not happy with the way COD plays on your system then you're going to have to upgrade. If you can sweat it out and wait a little while then you're going to same some cash. If you can't wait and have some money burning a hole in your pocket, spend spend spend!

Blackdog_kt 02-07-2011 03:23 AM

I think i'm with jockey on this one with regards to upgrades.

Also, on the subject of the activation system: http://www.tagesprotection.com/Guide...structions.pdf

After giving it a quick look, it seems that you DON'T need to use up an extra activation if for some reason you need to format your hard drive.

The activation code can be stored in a file, so as long as your PC configuration hasn't been changed significantly in hardware or software you can just use the previous activation. The activation code is a hash value of your PC's components which, if i understand correctly, is just the result of an algorithm that looks up your PC components, assigns some numbers/IDs to them, does some math and extrapolates a final value in a way that's not possible for a third party to reverse and see what you actually have in your PC (ie, something like one-way encryption and comparison of the encrypted values).

As long as the components are the same, your hash string will be the same. So, if you format and reinstall your OS you can then install CoD again and when prompted to activate select the "i have already received my activation code" option. At that point you will be prompted to copy-paste it from the text file (that's what you should definitely save on some removable media device) and you will be using your original activation instead of using up a second one.

That's all according to how i understood the manual after a quick glance. Also, i don't know what they mean when they say "as long as there's no significant changes to your hardware or software". For software, i guess it means the OS type and nothing more (XP/Vista/7). As for hardware, it doesn't specify in depth. I guess it would definitely look up the type of CPU and/or motherboard as well as the GPU when calculating the hash string, but it would be overkill if it also took RAM and hard drives into account, as that would mean an extra wasted activation if you wanted to do some cheap RAM upgrade or your hard drive died and you installed a new one.

I guess we'll have to wait and see, but it's looking more user friendly than most of the other DRM we've seen lately.

kendo65 02-07-2011 10:45 AM

Speculum Jockey > Nice post there. A lot of sensible advice.

You got my vote for making it a sticky :)



Thanks Blackdog - I'm thinking the drm is probably going to be ok. Seems to strike a good and fair balance between protecting the rights of the devs and flexibility for the buyer.

bf-110 02-07-2011 04:35 PM

Quote:

PROCESSOR: Pentium® Dual-Core 2.0GHz or Athlon™ X2 3800+
(Intel Core i5 2.66GHz or AMD Phenom II X4 2.6GHz recommended)
OMFG!I have an i3 and I thought that could handle anything!
Looks like I´m starting to get outdated...

swiss 02-07-2011 05:24 PM

Now you mention it...

i5 2.6 - that would an i5-750?

Doesn't work out with the 2.6 amd pendant(x4@2.6= 925/910) though.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/best-g...w-32103-6.html

I am confused.

Gromic 02-07-2011 05:34 PM

Yeah, i5-750. 2,66GHz at stock speed.

Lots of headroom and can be easily overclocked. This kits running at 3,8 on air. Hopefully CoD shouldn't be to much of a handbrake initially.

swiss 02-07-2011 06:02 PM

still, any AMD X4 around 2.6 is nowhere near the i5.

Gromic 02-07-2011 06:25 PM

Correct. Seeing as the X2 with 2.6GHz is 3 generations behind, it does seem strange that they advertise comparable requirements that way. Looking at Tom's chart it should read...

(Intel Core i5-750 2.67GHz or AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 975 3.6GHz recommended) or...

(Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.66GHz or AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 910e 2,6GHz recommended).

I'm starting to think it was a Ubi typo. They probably meant 3.6GHz instead of 2.6GHz - which would be the first option.

Waffenator 02-08-2011 03:17 AM

How many cores will the game support?

swiss 02-08-2011 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gromic (Post 221483)
I'm starting to think it was a Ubi typo. They probably meant 3.6GHz instead of 2.6GHz - which would be the first option.

I guess I need a new cooler, heard the 955 can OC to 4... ;)

Or maybe just an new hexa.

Oldschool61 02-08-2011 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiss (Post 221637)
I guess I need a new cooler, heard the 955 can OC to 4... ;)

Or maybe just an new hexa.

You wont need to overclock any high end processors. Just get an X6 and leave it be.

Triggaaar 02-08-2011 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 221261)
After giving it a quick look, it seems that you DON'T need to use up an extra activation if for some reason you need to format your hard drive.

The activation code can be stored in a file, so as long as your PC configuration hasn't been changed significantly in hardware or software you can just use the previous activation. The activation code is a hash value of your PC's components which, if i understand correctly, is just the result of an algorithm that looks up your PC components

So if this activation code is stored, is it checked each time you start the game? ie, you don't go online each time you load the game, but your game checks that you have an activation code and that it matches your PC? I assume not, that would mean your game would stop working any time you made a change to your hardware. So what does it do?

mazex 02-08-2011 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speculum jockey (Post 221259)
See this?



This is the answer to all hardware questions posed by people considering upgrades or building a new system. I think it should be posted in a sticky that forces all forum members to view it before posting. Those of you who are still asking, read the following.

Cheapos: If you have a dual core system running faster than 2.4GHZ, and card made in the last two years, and 2GB of memory then you're going to be able to play it, but don't expect much in the way of eye candy.

Midrange: If you have a newer i5/7/AMD equivalent, a card made in the last year, and 4GB of memory then you're going to be playing it pretty decently.

More money than brains: If you spend 1K tomorrow on the fastest processer with 16GB of the most overpriced RAM, a SSD Drive, and 4 of the top of the line cards SLI/Crossfired then you're going to be able to play it maxed with a pretty crazy-large resolution.

FAQs

Q: Should I invest in a new system.

A: Depends on a few things. . . Can you afford it? What do you have now? How do you want to run it?

If you can afford to do it, then go for it. It's your money. If you have a year old gaming system and you don't need to play it on a 27" Dell monitor then you're probably going to be fine. If you want high resolution and everything maxed then you're going to have to spend some money. WAIT AND SEE before dropping a few hundred or thousand on a new system.

Q: Should I SLI/Crossfire to get better performance?

A: To most of you, "No". Luthier said the other day that SLI/CF might not give you any performance gains. Generally speaking Multi GPUs/Cards are for people who will be gaming on multiple monitors or at huge resolutions. We don't know if 1xGPU=20fps and 2xGPU=40fps. Maybe there is a huge gain, maybe you just spent $200 for an additional 5fps? WAIT AND SEE before buying another card.

Q: Should I get the latest and greatest Intel/AMD CPU?

A: All depends on your cashflow and your needs. Are you playing this thing jacked will all things enabled and full object counts? Then yes, spend away! From what we've heard it seems that the CPU might be the component that makes the most difference when upgrading. Will having a 2 core system at 4GHZ be better than a 4 core system at 3.5 GHZ? WAIT AND SEE before buying a new CPU.

Q: Should I get another XGB of RAM?

A: Maybe. Luthier said that COD was pushing 1.8GB of RAM Max, but who knows how streamlined it will get in the next month or how much it will expand in the next year. If you have 2GB, you might want to test the waters first. . . then the land. It's dependent on options enabled, so maybe. Given the price of RAM right now I'd probably go with 4GB since I'm sure additional content will be memory hungry. Should you get 8GB of RAM? It's your cash, but I don't see a gaming rig needing more than 4GB of RAM in the next few years.

Q: I'm going to be smart and wait to build a system, but how will I know what will run COD at 60fps at my ideal resolution?

A: Come to these forums and ask people what they are using and what frames they are getting. Maybe Toms Hardware or another site will use COD as their new "Killer App" to test their rigs. Maybe "Can you run it" will add COD and it will tell you what systems run it decently.

Q: What's the big deal in waiting? If I build a killer rig now or 6 months from now I'll still have a killer rig, but I won't be playing that game for 1/2 a year.

A: It all comes down to how much you want to play COD and how much you value your money. If you have the cash, build your rig now. If you want to be a bit more frugal, cool your jets and play the waiting game.

On average, waiting 6 months to build a system typically gets you equal or better frames per second at about 1/2 the price for the gaming components. This depends on the speed Intel/AMD/Nvidia/ATI release their new flagship products and how aggressive they want to be in their pricing. Sometimes you have to wait a year to get it 1/2 off, and sometimes a new product comes along that makes everyone want to get rid of current stock.

Monitors, power supplies, RAM, hard disks, and even mainboards don't really drop in price that often or that fast. Usually it takes some sort of radical new format from Intel or AMD to make all these manufacturers drop prices and start changing their products to keep up.

In summation, it all come down to two simple formulas

Interest in Game + Ability to Wait < Money = Upgrade
Interest in Game + Ability to Wait > Money = Wait for Upgrade


If you're not happy with the way COD plays on your system then you're going to have to upgrade. If you can sweat it out and wait a little while then you're going to same some cash. If you can't wait and have some money burning a hole in your pocket, spend spend spend!

Well written!

Triggaaar 02-08-2011 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazex (Post 221884)
Well written!

To each their own I guess.

kendo65 02-08-2011 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waffenator (Post 221628)
How many cores will the game support?

Just the HARD-CORE ...:)

Sorry...smart money is that a quad core will be a worthwhile investment - judging by the recommended specs.

Doubt if more than that will be worthwhile.

Blackdog_kt 02-08-2011 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triggaaar (Post 221881)
So if this activation code is stored, is it checked each time you start the game? ie, you don't go online each time you load the game, but your game checks that you have an activation code and that it matches your PC? I assume not, that would mean your game would stop working any time you made a change to your hardware. So what does it do?

I think it's quite close to what you say.

Granted, i only gave the .pdf document a brief look, but they did mention that the activation code is a variable dependent on your PC specs.

How restrictive is that? Well, it depends on your upgrade habits and what kind of specs it tracks.

For example, i don't expect the majority of people (bar the hardware enthusiasts) to do more than one major upgrade per year, so if it only checks the OS type, CPU, GPU and motherboard models then i would probably not have have to reactivate for months or even a year.

If however it checks other components that a lot of people change on a more frequent basis, either as a cheap mini-upgrade or due to hardware failures, it could prove a bit problematic. For example, it would be over the top to include the type of RAM sticks, hard drives or optical drives into the calculation of the hash file, since connecting an external drive would suddenly register as a different hardware configuration with a different hash value: the DRM might think it's installed on a different PC and lock you out until you reactivate.

I think that's the main reason they look up the hardware, instead of limiting your amount of installations flat out, they are trying to limit the amount of different PCs you can install on.

I still consider DRM of most kinds a failed approach because they are restrictive to the legitimate user while at the same time being ineffective in combating piracy, so i would prefer the ordinary copy protection on the disk that takes about an equal amount of time to get bypassed but doesn't deprive me the use of something i paid for. That being said, compared to other DRM implementations this tages system looks like a marked improvement.

For me, the main advantages over other kinds of DMR are:
a) It works offline once you activate.

b) You can activate on a non-connected PC without having to carry the whole case with you.
The pdf manual states that you can generate the initial hash file on your gaming PC, copy that file to a thumbdrive and take it to a place with internet access to complete the activation from there.
If i understood correctly the process goes like this:
start installer and input your product key/DVD-key->after the installation completes the DRM checks your PC specs and outputs a hash file->hash file gets uploaded to tages-> tages provides you with the activation code.
So, it's possible to create the hash file on your gaming PC (that's the one you want it to match since here is where you'll be running the sim) but upload it to tages from another location to receive the activation code.

In the automatic activation mode it does this all on its own. If for whatever reason you have problems or lack internet access, you go to manual mode and it provides you with the ability to save a copy of the hash file so that you can manually upload it from another location and receive the unlock code. Then you save the code, go back to your own PC and copy paste it into the activation window to complete the process.

c) As long as your PC specs are unchanged, you can format and reinstall everything on your PC without wasting an extra activation. As long as the specs are the same, the hash value will be the same so you just save that code in a text file on some removable media and just copy-paste it into the activation window whenever you need to reinstall CoD.

d) If you run out of activations you can email your product key to customer support and they'll give you 5 more, effectively resetting your available activation count to the state of a brand new purchased copy.

I still hate having to jump through fiery hoops to play something i paid for, but compared to constant online requirements or limited activations and deactivations that are based on the total amount of installs even on the same PC instead of on the amount of different PCs it's installed on , it's a definite improvement.

F19_lacrits 02-11-2011 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waffenator (Post 221628)
How many cores will the game support?

Valid question which I also would like to know the answer for.. It's crucial to know if you are in to buying new hardware for the game as there are 6 core desktop CPU's on the market nowadays (Opteron/Phenom and i7/Xeon). If the game only supports up to 4 cores (threads) then you don't have to look at 6 or 8 core CPU, not even the Sandy Bridge i7 2600 with Hyperthreading.. Might as well stick with Phenom X4 or i5 2500K and overclock them to hell.

Rall 02-11-2011 05:03 PM

Will a pc with these specs handle this game?

Processor: AMD Athlon ll X2 255 Dual Core
Hard Drive Size: 1TB
Processor - Clock Speed: 3.1GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 9200
Ram: 4GB
Windows 7, 64-bit

Thanks : )

Hecke 02-11-2011 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rall (Post 222835)
Will a pc with these specs handle this game?

Processor: AMD Athlon ll X2 255 Dual Core
Hard Drive Size: 1TB
Processor - Clock Speed: 3.1GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 9200
Ram: 4GB
Windows 7, 64-bit

Thanks : )


Not more than on low settings, I think.

addman 02-11-2011 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rall (Post 222835)
Will a pc with these specs handle this game?

Processor: AMD Athlon ll X2 255 Dual Core
Hard Drive Size: 1TB
Processor - Clock Speed: 3.1GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 9200
Ram: 4GB
Windows 7, 64-bit

Thanks : )

That geforce 9200 is integrated right? I'd say you need a dedicated graphics card the most, if you're on a budget you could go for a ATi Radeon HD 5770 or maybe a Geforce GTS 450. Second thing I'd consider would be a better CPU. You'll definitely need a better graphics card, first priority.

He111 02-12-2011 08:57 AM

Any update on eyefinity? i want to run 6 monitors to fly my He111 - left view, front view, right view, down view, top view, looking back down the cabin view??? Is what I want possible?

i can imagine I'll need LED monitors to stop cooking myself and draining the grid! :-P

He111.

JAMF 02-13-2011 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by He111 (Post 223092)
Any update on eyefinity? i want to run 6 monitors to fly my He111 - left view, front view, right view, down view, top view, looking back down the cabin view??? Is what I want possible?

Sounds like something that the guys playing FS9/FSX can do, but Eyefinity gives the game the impression there is one (1) high resolution display (like 5760x2160).

I do not think we will see an option to select 6 separate windows that display 6 selectable view-directions.

kikque 02-13-2011 10:21 PM

I know it's speculative, but will this system cope?

CPU: i7 920

mobo: P6T deluxe

RAM: 6GB

HD: 1TB

GPU: Radeon 4870 X2

Vista 64 bit

Many thanks for any help :) I haven't overclocked yet btw.

Biggs 02-13-2011 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kikque (Post 223670)
I know it's speculative, but will this system cope?

CPU: i7 920

mobo: P6T deluxe

RAM: 6GB

HD: 1TB

GPU: Radeon 4870 X2

Vista 64 bit

Many thanks for any help :) I haven't overclocked yet btw.


judging by the latest vids posted and a look at the min requirements list... you should be fine... dare I say more than fine.

Richie 02-14-2011 12:06 AM

I haven't read threw all of these posts so if this info has been up already I'm sorry for the boo boo for putting it up again but the starting point would seem to be an i5 with 4 gigs of ram with a good mid range Dx11 card as this guy had for the two videos.


Core i5-650, 4 gigs of Ram AMD Radeon 6870



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K94NQ...layer_embedded

kirq 02-14-2011 11:46 AM

I have:

i7 890 @3,5 GHz
4GB Ram
GTX460

and I'm hoping to run it on med/high 1680x1050. Will see :)

Pyrres 02-15-2011 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kikque (Post 223670)
I know it's speculative, but will this system cope?

CPU: i7 920

mobo: P6T deluxe

RAM: 6GB

HD: 1TB

GPU: Radeon 4870 X2

Vista 64 bit

Many thanks for any help :) I haven't overclocked yet btw.

Oh you should be more than fine. The weakest link in your system is that it is not oc:d. That old 4870x2 can still give headaches to many new cards. A friend of mine has the exact setup as you do but has Windows 7 and two 4870x2 and all OC:d to the max. He can run Metro 2033 on max settings over 120fps. I really suggest that you try and see what you can do with OC:ing. My own 920 goes to 3.99ghz on stock voltages and on aircooling.

My computer has P6T MB, 2xAti 5770 GPU:s with slight oc:s, I7 920@4.1ghz (aircooled), and 12gb of DDR3. My only consern is how well does COD use those two GPU:s that are on the weak side. Normally when game does use CF properly I can run most of the games at max graphics but some just cant use CF properly and I have to give up my eyecandy :(.

Bobby109 02-15-2011 08:39 PM

"OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows® 7 / Vista SP2 / Windows XP SP3"

What happens if you have Vista SP1 ??

It took forever to get Vista to work properly and once it did i never wanted to change anything as that can open a whole new can of worms lol. (Same reason i'm not getting Win 7, i'll be troubleshooting for a month :P)

Sorry if this has been answered, did not have time to look thru 36 pages.

furbs 02-15-2011 08:49 PM

Get WIN 7 64bit...you will be sorted in about 20 mins...outstanding OS :)

Blackdog_kt 02-15-2011 10:12 PM

I can second that. After having to work on Vista for a few months during my army time as a conscript, i can say it was a deeply traumatic experience, i hated them :grin:

Excuse me while i ramble on for a while, some of you might enjoy the story...
At some point i was attached to a junior officer who took care of the wing's informatics, networks and so on (which naturally didn't run on windows :-P ). My job was to do maintenance work when people called us about PC problems, plus we had to compile a weekly briefing for the unit's commanding officer (a brigadier with a few thousand hours in mirage 2000s). This we usually did on powerpoint with a PC that ran Vista.

Now, the unit i served in didn't operate aircraft, but it still had an important job and lots of things to keep track of. The wing in question is responsible for half the air-defence network of the country and operates patriot missile systems, plus some of its squadrons are situated in different parts of the country.
Well, every week we had to compile an inventory of everything for the briefing, ranging from the amount of personnel and patriot spare parts right down to food rations, point defence flak gun status (operational/under maintenance/unserviceable and in such a case which part failed) and even the amount of individual ammunition rounds for each weapon, right down to our rifles and pistols. After all this there was the secret operational reports (which i naturally lacked clearance to work on) and descriptions of whatever training activities we were involved in. All of this information was broken up in parts where each squadron had its relevant officers supply the data once per week.

Well, there's nothing worse than having a bunch of officers delaying submission of the required data for the briefing until the last 5 minutes, having them suddenly crowd your tiny office all at once for fear of the CO chewing them off if they miss the deadline and Vista throwing tantrums and errors all the while :grin:


This experience made me so determined not to ever install Vista, that when i got my current PC i only got 3GB of RAM because the only 64 bit OSes available were XP 64 (limited drivers) and Vista 64 (see story above.)

When win7 became available i remained hesitant for while, until the stream of positive reviews started. I got a license for free through a friend of mine (he was entitled to it through a university program for post-graduate informatics students but he didn't need it as he's using Linux) and installed it on a secondary hard drive.

A month ago my windows XP installation crashed badly due to file system errors, so i finally made the move to win7 x64.

Compared to XP it's like comparing a jet or turboprop to a piston engine: sometimes win7 feels like it needs some "spool up" time where XP would respond immediately, but overall performance when actually running a demanding piece of software is better.

Novotny 02-15-2011 10:35 PM

Well, that's hardly surprising since you limited the ram to 3gig. I notice upon visiting my parents that their i5 with 3gigs cranks the hdd whilst my 8400(@3.8ghz) with 4gigs just opens things quite quickly in comparison (both win7 64bit).

I had the same attitude to XP when it came out. It took a complete OS failure at a LAN event to make me install XP, and I was very unhappy about it, whilst the friendly chaps helping me politely waited for me to stop being a dick.

Once I had mouse accel sorted, I thought XP was actually very good.

I shifted to Win 7 quite early on and completely refused to boot to XP ever again.

And in the spirit of completeness: Vista was xxxx .

Edit:: Blackdog, just curious: why do you always make such bloody long posts? Not in any way complaining, just asking :)

swiss 02-15-2011 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novotny (Post 224627)

Edit:: Blackdog, just curious: why do you always make such bloody long posts? Not in any way complaining, just asking :)

He found the speech recognition feature of Windows7, lol. ;)

Blackdog_kt 02-15-2011 11:45 PM

I just type fast enough to be able to put thoughts to "virtual paper" in a "thinking out loud/talking over a beer in the bar" kind of fashion, it's not really planned :grin:

In the more heated debates it's a byproduct of including as many details as possible so that i can make a clear point and avoid being misunderstood or having an exchange of one-liners with other posters. You could say i just like to preempt and cover as many angles as possible, instead of having to wait for someone to post a single sentence and reply to them in a similar manner. It's a longer posts/more info per post for a smaller post count type of thing ;)

Back on the topic of RAM, that will probably be the one mini-upgrade i'm going to go for after i've done some test flights with CoD. I have three sticks of 1GB each in triple channel (i don't remember timings and clock speeds so i'll have to look it up, but i'm probably going to opt for mid-range settings).

I'm thinking of pushing the total up to 6GB by getting an extra 3x1GB in triple channel, as the motherboard has 3 more slots available in a separate "bank".
My question is, do the new sticks have to share clock speeds and timings with my existing ones, can i "underclock" the faster set to match the slower one if they need to match, or do i just plug them in as long as they are in separate banks?

Edit: Looking at the local e-shop retailers there's DDR3 kits from as low as 35 all the way to 78 Euros, a middle of the road 1333Mhz Corsair kit is at 52 and has a lifetime warranty! I head RAM was getting cheap but i didn't know it was that cheap, i may jump the gun and get it earlier :cool:

kendo65 02-16-2011 10:41 AM

Blackdog, afaik, to avoid 'issues' and possible complications, it is important to get exactly the same spec of ram that you are currently using - for maximum dependability get the exact same model from the same manufacturer if that is possible.

Others may have more info on this, but that is the general advice I came across when doubling my ram to 4GB.

F19_lacrits 02-16-2011 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 224650)
Back on the topic of RAM, that will probably be the one mini-upgrade i'm going to go for after i've done some test flights with CoD. I have three sticks of 1GB each in triple channel (i don't remember timings and clock speeds so i'll have to look it up, but i'm probably going to opt for mid-range settings).

I'm thinking of pushing the total up to 6GB by getting an extra 3x1GB in triple channel, as the motherboard has 3 more slots available in a separate "bank".
My question is, do the new sticks have to share clock speeds and timings with my existing ones, can i "underclock" the faster set to match the slower one if they need to match, or do i just plug them in as long as they are in separate banks?

In case of triple and dual channel RAM.. This has got to do with how the chipset addresses RAM and it's bus-width. Dual channel is 2*64bit and Triple 3*64bit bus-width.
For the chipset to be able to address memory like this they have to be identical in terms of not only speed but also model and make etc. The "system" sees the two or three RAM sticks as one bank of RAM memory.
On a X58 you have two sets of triple channel memory slots. That's why the banks have two sets of color coding.
You don't need to match your new set of RAM sticks with your existing ones in terms of make and model.. The new set should be matched though so that you can run them in triple channel as well. The bus can not run individual frequency to the different banks, so all memory must run on the same speed and with the same timings. So your "worst" RAM stick will set the mark for all other..

Razorhead 02-17-2011 07:52 AM

edit; i'lll be smart and wait for the final release. First see how the game is running on a E6750, 4GB DDR2 & 4870 1GB.

Blackdog_kt 02-17-2011 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F19_lacrits (Post 224744)
In case of triple and dual channel RAM.. This has got to do with how the chipset addresses RAM and it's bus-width. Dual channel is 2*64bit and Triple 3*64bit bus-width.
For the chipset to be able to address memory like this they have to be identical in terms of not only speed but also model and make etc. The "system" sees the two or three RAM sticks as one bank of RAM memory.
On a X58 you have two sets of triple channel memory slots. That's why the banks have two sets of color coding.
You don't need to match your new set of RAM sticks with your existing ones in terms of make and model.. The new set should be matched though so that you can run them in triple channel as well. The bus can not run individual frequency to the different banks, so all memory must run on the same speed and with the same timings. So your "worst" RAM stick will set the mark for all other..

So if i'm getting this correctly, i can buy 3 identical sticks that match each other but don't need to match the previous 3. Then i will have to downgrade my faster set to the speed and timings of the slower one.

Thanks for the input ;)

kendo65 02-17-2011 11:48 AM

You'll get the 3 matched sticks when you buy a set of triple-channel ram.

As F19_lacrits says they can be of different spec to your current ones, but if so you will have to set everything to the speed (and settings ) of the slowest.

I still suggest, though, that for maximum ease and compatibility you just order a second set of the triple-channel ram you are already using.

jldena 03-08-2011 11:39 AM

Im sure about the procesor, not that sure about de graphic card. Will it be enough? Thank you.

Intel® CoreTM i7-2620M 2,70GHz
Windows® 7 Professional
500 GB Serial ATA (7200 rpm)
8 GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM
LCD 33,7 cm, 1366x768 + webcam
AMD Radeon(TM) HD 6630M 1GB

klem 03-08-2011 04:14 PM

That's a hard question to answer.
Looking at this:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Compute...s.13849.0.html

I'd say it sits a little above a 5650 which you can see also here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...90,2879-7.html

Its not clear how CoD will perform on various hardware setups but if I had to guess I'd say ok at lower to medium settings.

OTOH you could turn it around and ask how it performs in IL-2. Perhaps you can expect at least that level of Graphics in CoD but will that mean 'low' by CoD standards and will that matter to you?

jldena 03-08-2011 05:09 PM

Thank you klem,

Do you think the procesor will help? that intel i7 is one of the new intel procesors called second generation also called "sandy bridge".

easyhomewin 03-08-2011 05:58 PM

Seen as we are aren't getting a demo I thought I'd try games with similar minimal requirements; (8800 / core duo 2)..... nearest match I could find was the Crysis 2 mp demo.

It seemed to be just about playable on lowest res 800x600 and gamer mode, still think i'll hold out for a hard copy just incase.. I remain hopeful my little dell xps 13 with a 210m is upto the task.;)

camel24hrs 03-08-2011 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by easyhomewin (Post 232247)
Seen as we are aren't getting a demo I thought I'd try games with similar minimal requirements; (8800 / core duo 2)..... nearest match I could find was the Crysis 2 mp demo.

It seemed to be just about playable on lowest res 800x600 and gamer mode, still think i'll hold out for a hard copy just incase.. I remain hopeful my little dell xps 13 with a 210m is upto the task.;)

The only sim I have that might be close to what COD will be is ROF. The extensive flight models and heavy duty graphics and maps seem to me like they may be a close fit.

I am running a Palit Geforce 560Ti 2gig. When you do the settings in ROF it shows you what percentage of video ram you are using and when you get to 90% it flags a warning. Running at 1920x1080 with all the bells and whisltes turned up all the way I am using 53% of my available video ram. After I fly I close out the sim and pop up MSI Afterburner and it shows that I was using about 1.3 gig worth.

No one has actually laid hands on COD yet, so we dont know what is all going to be required for all the bells and whistles. But on ROF if you want to turn everything up you better have more than 1gig of video memory. 1.5 at a minimum. Bty, I get upper 50s to mid 60s fps in flight and upper 40s to low 50s in dogfights over a detailed landscape at low altitude. It is not jerky at all and would not know the frame rate even lowered if I was not running fraps. Running the card oc at 920 core and 2400 (4800) memory at stock voltage

The sad fact is we really have no clue as to what COD will take to run it with everything wide open till we get our hands on it. Seems kind of unfair.

klem 03-08-2011 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jldena (Post 232199)
Thank you klem,

Do you think the procesor will help? that intel i7 is one of the new intel procesors called second generation also called "sandy bridge".

That's not so easy either for the same reasons but I would think it will be better placed in CPU terms than your card will be in GPU terms. I'm guessing medium settings.

But that's only my guess. I would certainly say that with a PC (Laptop?) of that spec I wouldn't go rushing out to get something else until you have seen what it can deliver.
I have a laptop with the i7-720QM 1.6GHz and ATI/AMD 5250 GPU and it runs Microsoft FSX beautifully and if you look here
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_look...00+%40+2.00GHz
You'll see that gets a benchmark score of 3266 whilst yours gets 3563. I know benchmarks don't always tell you how a game will run but it's a reasonable guide for CPU comparisons.

Anyway, in two and a half weeks time we'll know :)

drillerman45 03-12-2011 07:08 AM

Nvidia 9500M GS 512meg
 
Good morning everyone,
I would like to pre-order IL2-CoD but before doing so would ask for some clarification on graphics cards. I have the above card in my ACER notebook and was wondering if it would be ok to run IL2-CoD. I don't have any problems running IL2-BOP. While I realise it is not in the "Supported" list, I assume it doesn't mean it won't necessarily be ok.
Thank you in advance of some clarification.

Kikuchiyo 03-12-2011 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drillerman45 (Post 233609)
Good morning everyone,
I would like to pre-order IL2-CoD but before doing so would ask for some clarification on graphics cards. I have the above card in my ACER notebook and was wondering if it would be ok to run IL2-CoD. I don't have any problems running IL2-BOP. While I realise it is not in the "Supported" list, I assume it doesn't mean it won't necessarily be ok.
Thank you in advance of some clarification.

What you should be most concerned with is your CPU and Memory. The game involves a lot of heavy number crunching, and like many others would say the video card is tertiary to the calculating power of your processor.

drillerman45 03-12-2011 10:25 AM

Thanks for the reply, My CPU is a dual core 2.0ghz and I have 4 gig of memory. These both meet requirements but I was just concerned that my video card doesn't.

nearmiss 03-12-2011 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drillerman45 (Post 233609)
Good morning everyone,
I would like to pre-order IL2-CoD but before doing so would ask for some clarification on graphics cards. I have the above card in my ACER notebook and was wondering if it would be ok to run IL2-CoD. I don't have any problems running IL2-BOP. While I realise it is not in the "Supported" list, I assume it doesn't mean it won't necessarily be ok.
Thank you in advance of some clarification.


There is NO WAY I would buy any hardware at this time. Wait until release is out, and watch the boards for a couple weeks information will flow like a river and you'll make better hardware choices.

klem 03-12-2011 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nearmiss (Post 233728)
There is NO WAY I would buy any hardware at this time. Wait until release is out, and watch the boards for a couple weeks information will flow like a river and you'll make better hardware choices.

Absolutely. It's so close to release now.

FYI I would guess your card sits around 17th on the list at this link. The list may help you make sense of the card types people report back on.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...50,2782-7.html

SEE 03-13-2011 02:00 AM

I came across a review for CoD and along side the system specs was neat little box in which you typed in your current PC specs and it gave a rating out of 10 for performance......mine came out at 4...........:(

So I priced up an expensive but decent spec upgrade, typed it in and it came out at 7----hell! Think I will wait untill prices have fallen and stick with 4.101 as I am not sure I could cope with an underperforming rig - it would drive me nuts!

nearmiss 03-13-2011 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klem (Post 233768)
Absolutely. It's so close to release now.

FYI I would guess your card sits around 17th on the list at this link. The list may help you make sense of the card types people report back on.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...50,2782-7.html

My video card is an 8800 gts 512MB, which doesn't look to bad on the chart.

Still, I'm not about to buy anything until the forums have been screaming from users getting there systems upgraded and sharing with everyone.

An amazing amount of information will flow when the COD is released.

Just be patient!

blade122222 03-13-2011 09:31 AM

Just wondering if a 9600gs would work with this game? Just work, not play at maximum or anything...

No601_Merlin 03-13-2011 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blade122222 (Post 233910)
Just wondering if a 9600gs would work with this game? Just work, not play at maximum or anything...

8800GT minimum so just about

blade122222 03-14-2011 04:09 PM

Is it true that much memory (+4Gb) is more important than a good graphics card?

Oldschool61 03-14-2011 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blade122222 (Post 234286)
Is it true that much memory (+4Gb) is more important than a good graphics card?

NO

jldena 03-14-2011 05:14 PM

Thanks klem, as you say, Ill have to wait and see what happens.

bugmenot 03-14-2011 06:05 PM

Hey guys, I currently have this pretty old PC :

C2D E6750 2,66Ghz
2Gb RAM DDR2 PC6400
8800GTX 768Mb
The rest is of the same level.

I can't afford a new PC right now so, would it be worth it to buy CoD nevertheless?

Even RoF runs pretty well...

Thanks.

JG52Uther 03-14-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bugmenot (Post 234323)
Hey guys, I currently have this pretty old PC :

C2D E6750 2,66Ghz
2Gb RAM DDR2 PC6400
8800GTX 768Mb
The rest is of the same level.

I can't afford a new PC right now so, would it be worth it to buy CoD nevertheless?

Even RoF runs pretty well...

Thanks.

I would say yes,you should be ok at lower settings,but another 2GB of ram would help a lot.

hashi 03-14-2011 07:52 PM

Just finished building my new PC for this (and shogun 2)
12GB tripple channel RAM
i7 960
EVGA GTX 580
2x 1TB HDD Raid0
27" LED LCD
TrakIR 5
nothing else matters

Gonna rock!

blade122222 03-14-2011 09:09 PM

I haven´t heard anything about il-2 cod supporting multi-core. But i´m assuming it does....right?

JAMF 03-14-2011 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blade122222 (Post 234382)
I haven´t heard anything about il-2 cod supporting multi-core. But i´m assuming it does....right?

Quote:

PCGH: interpret the previously announced minimum and recommended hardware requirements for it to know, that the engine is optimized for multi-core processors. Can you confirm that? If so, what is the thread-structure? Do you use a thread scheduler?

Oleg Maddox: We use a hybrid multi-threaded system. Separate threads come in to play in sound or asynchronous loading of resources in to play. We also use, for example, to load or calculate geometry TPL (Task Parallel Library) for the efficient use of available cores apply.
So this answer tells us the load will be spread over multiple cores, but for performance benefits of how many cores, we'll have to wait for actual numbers. There is no way to tell yet if a 3 or 4 core will give best results, or 6 or 8 cores.

klem 03-14-2011 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bugmenot (Post 234323)
Hey guys, I currently have this pretty old PC :

C2D E6750 2,66Ghz
2Gb RAM DDR2 PC6400
8800GTX 768Mb
The rest is of the same level.

I can't afford a new PC right now so, would it be worth it to buy CoD nevertheless?

Even RoF runs pretty well...

Thanks.

You'll soon know from others that do buy it and report back. Should be able to judge from that so you could wait if you like.

Ploughman 03-15-2011 09:00 AM

Best thing to do would be to get some more RAM.

blade122222 03-15-2011 12:43 PM

Will i be able to run cod with decent fps with these settings? (presumably)

Q6600 quad 2.4Ghz
4Gb ram
nvidia 9600gs

speculum jockey 03-16-2011 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blade122222 (Post 234564)
Will i be able to run cod with decent fps with these settings? (presumably)

Q6600 quad 2.4Ghz
4Gb ram
nvidia 9600gs

Are you going to be playing at 800x600 with everything set to low or 50,000x30,000 maxed out with 256x FSAA?

I'll tell you March 26th.

The Sheepherder 03-18-2011 09:33 AM

I have a question: Do you think CoD will run decently on an ATI 4650 at 1024x768 resolution with little or no FSAA but with high detail models and textures?

Avala 03-18-2011 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blade122222 (Post 234564)
Will i be able to run cod with decent fps with these settings? (presumably)

Q6600 quad 2.4Ghz
4Gb ram
nvidia 9600gs

You will, but not with high settings, probably with lower.

Biggs 03-18-2011 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blade122222 (Post 234564)
Will i be able to run cod with decent fps with these settings? (presumably)

Q6600 quad 2.4Ghz
4Gb ram
nvidia 9600gs

thats my rig too more or less... though i OC'd the Q6600 to 3.2ghz, and ive got a Radeon 4850.

Im expecting mid to low-mid settings at 1680x1050 and MAYBE some AA if I can.

JG52Uther 03-18-2011 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggs (Post 235997)
thats my rig too more or less... though i OC'd the Q6600 to 3.2ghz, and ive got a Radeon 4850.

Im expecting mid to low-mid settings at 1680x1050 and MAYBE some AA if I can.

Snap,I have a Q6600 @ 3.2 as well, with 4GB of ram.My 4850 is a 1GB model though,and it plays RoF very nicely at fairly high settings,so I am hoping it will cope with CoD.

waffen-79 03-18-2011 10:48 PM

intel core2duo e8400 3.0ghz
4gb ram
GTX 460 1gb
windows 7

will this run it?

forgot to add:

I have a 1600x900 native res LCD, I need that resolution

Biggs 03-19-2011 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 236001)
Snap,I have a Q6600 @ 3.2 as well, with 4GB of ram.My 4850 is a 1GB model though,and it plays RoF very nicely at fairly high settings,so I am hoping it will cope with CoD.

HA identical!

Im thinking on the pesimistic side of things... there are things like Forest size and ground shading and building detail that i feel like i can live with on "low"

we will have to compair notes when the games out...

EDIT: This is what im planning to run my settings at...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/Biggs222/3-1.jpg


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