I'm with Guiltyspark on this one. No cockpit for the Bf109, no purchase for me. In all previous Il2 games the main plane I have flown is the Bf109 in the cockpit view. If this is true, I will wait until the game is patched to include cockpits for the German planes. Failing this, I will not buy the game and will stick with Il2 1946 until Storm of War is released by the real Il2 developers.

I have not been put off by the lack of controller options, the news that some planes would lack cockpits, the lack of realism in mission layouts, completed planes being cut out deliberately prior to launch for DLC, planes having the wrong cockpits, not being able to customise the difficulty levels, and the lack of a German campaign but this will completely ruin multiplayer for me so I will not buy the game until it is fixed.

trk29, thank you :grin:

Well, actually this is no cockpit at all... "superman view" would have been a better name for this pic ;)

We know that not all planes have cockpits, and it kind of makes senses that the ones that you will not be flying in mission or campaign mode are the ones missing them. And you can use virtual cockpit in sim mode, just not external view.

Shame I assumed it would be the bombers only without cockpits, all the ME and FW lovers are going to be disappointed.

This isn't a couple of the less important planes not having cockpits. This is every plane on the German side. You would have thought that at the very least the most important German fighter, the Bf109, the fighter built in the largest numbers during WWII and indeed ever, would have a cockpit.

I myself loved to fly the 109 in the original IL2, but it not having a cockpit is not going to change my decision on buying the game. I am still getting this game no matter what. And this is all speculation, this has not been confirmed or denied by Anton so everybody shouldn't be getting so upset.

It doesn't make sense to have dogfights with allied and axis on simulation and the axis have the advantage of having a bigger field of view but none of us know if this is true.

I myself thought that the bombers were the ones without a cockpit but that was my speculation.

Of course, you might be right in that this might not be true because it has not been confirmed by Anton. However, the reason why I would buy this game would be because it would be an improvement at least in some respects over Il2 1946. I'm not buying this game just because I can. If it cannot even match basic features like cockpits then I will stick with 1946, which has far more campaign options in many other theatres, a huge number of aircraft, a campaign/mission editor, replay mode, mods and custom skins, more players online, co-op, more and better flightstick options, etc, etc. The only conceivable advantage Birds of Prey has over 1946 is graphics, and this alone isn't enough to sway me if Birds of Prey is otherwise seriously inferior.

If this is true then it will be very disappointing. I will still get the game though. Why? because there's no other option for a WW2 console flight sim and I can't afford a new PC!

Anton, please tell us it's not true! :cry:

That will really hurt MP games because if you are flying against other pilots who do not have a cockpit then you are at a disadvantage if you use the cockpit view. Therefore MP flying will likely mean no cockpits at all. :(

Wow. Hope this isn't true. If I buy this game I'm definitely going to wait at least a week after the release in case there are any other "issues" that come up. I really wanted to fall head over heels in love with this game but it's just not happening :(

Is it me or is there way too much speculation about a game that is being released soon. What are they hiding?

Anton has said there is some stuff he wants to tell us but can't because of publisher. Everybody may not agree but the publisher have their reasons.