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cocteau4ad 08-03-2009 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by reverend66 (Post 86667)
In sim mode you have control of the flaps and trim, but there is no target cam or select target. select target (or Y on the stick) becomes flaps (level or combat while flying) with gear down they are up or landing. In sim mode the button that is the target cam (RB on an unmoded aviator) becomes the trim button. Basically you push it to set the aircrafts controls when you are in level flight (in case of damage or high speed in sim mode).
I believe that the single player game will be almost impossible to complete in Sim mode (with ground targets hard to see as well as objectives). However I believe that sim mode will be popular in online games (changing flaps from combat to level gives you a seruious advantage in turn fights as does trimming at high speed).

i can get the game to keep sim mode. it will not stay .

JCofDI 08-03-2009 05:24 AM

Sim is definitely a challenge in that regard, but I'm certainly going to try going through the game on that mode first. Using the map helps a lot in pinpointing things - but at times I stll find myself losing track of certain targets. (Love that you can tap the map button for extended glimpses, or just hold the button for a quick look, then let go and you're back in action.)

For example I probably spent a full 5-10 minutes looking for the trains in the Tiger Hunt mission. Then occasionally I would spot them in free look, only to lose them by the time I turned to face them. Really though - those are silver on white, and the Germans wouldn't want them to be fluorescent orange or anything, so it's to be expected. The gun emplacements at the beginning of the level though are no problem to find again if I decide to go chase a plane for a bit.

JCofDI 08-03-2009 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cocteau4ad (Post 86668)
i can get the game to keep sim mode. it will not stay .

If you're talking about starting the demo up and having to unlock sim mode each time, then yeah - it's an unfortunate side effect of how demos on the 360 are set up.

All you have to do is start with the third tutorial mission, and follow the prompts exactly. You should only have to shoot down three bombers total if you use the target camera like they want you to.

First few times I loaded it up I didn't realize that and ended up shooting all the bombers each time, haha.

cocteau4ad 08-03-2009 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JCofDI (Post 86671)
If you're talking about starting the demo up and having to unlock sim mode each time, then yeah - it's an unfortunate side effect of how demos on the 360 are set up.

All you have to do is start with the third tutorial mission, and follow the prompts exactly. You should only have to shoot down three bombers total if you use the target camera like they want you to.

First few times I loaded it up I didn't realize that and ended up shooting all the bombers each time, haha.

no actually i had to download the demo again now it works. i would do the tutorials unlock realism and sim mode but could not have the game put me on sim mode. now it does. this is the good stuff. thanks man

JCofDI 08-03-2009 06:02 AM

Glad to hear it works now!

I actually totally meant to put something about redownloading it if you meant it was happening in one session, then just got carried away.

reverend66 08-03-2009 06:43 AM

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(Love that you can tap the map button for extended glimpses, or just hold the button for a quick look, then let go and you're back in action.)
Thanks JCofDI! I thought it was just a glitch. I was actualy toying with making my map switch a toggle instead of a button.

Bunsenbeaker27 08-03-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by reverend66 (Post 86431)
Once you get into the POV and Joystick functions you are running into a LOT of very very tiny wires. I would not recomend messing with those as you will more than likely be buying a new stick (or two). I have found however that the aviator joystick is much less jerky and serisously easy to aim with after I used Bunsenbeaker's zip tie mod. Just use 2 zip ties to lesson the spring tension at the base of the stick (see pic)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_wL3f1bGat8Q/Sn...0802092720.jpg

Thanks Bunsenbeaker!
Rev:mrgreen:


Yep, that's the mod precisely! Glad it's helping you guys. I meant to post up pictures, but I ended up going out of town at the last minute over the weekend.:grin: This thread should be considered for a sticky since it has a lot of good info in it.

Saturat 08-03-2009 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by reverend66 (Post 86654)
Once the full release comes out & I know which buttons are the most important I will post a printable step by step PDF with instructions for installing new buttons & a wiring layout.

Rev:mrgreen:



please do!

Kartman013 08-07-2009 02:11 AM

Looks quite kinky :grin:

Not Home 08-07-2009 12:52 PM

The zip tie mod has helped but I think I'm still gonna have to use a controller online. The dead zone of the AV8R makes it hard to maneuver precisely and the twisting needed for the rudder just feels plain wrong. Controller/ace edge guys would be flying rings around me else.

I would not recommend the AV8R for BOP IMHO. If you're on the fence do yourself a favor and save the money until something decent comes out that doesn't cost the earth. There is no advantage with this stick.

First post, shame it has to be negative. I think the game itself is amazing for the record.


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