I like the tone of your article, its got just the right tone in sarcasim...
But back on topic here, I have nothing against ROF. Neither their flight model or financial model. I do however have an issue with what they are offering for the price. If they are going to sell add-in's then the base product should be a lot cheaper for what you get. If you read their early blogs they promised a lot including a movie builder, persistant universe. As far as I have seen the game has shipped without a lot of these key components. I also fly for an online squadron and looked forward to ROF, but co-op, massive online maps just are not there.
I have seen screenshots of weather effects so I am assuming posters that say you only get bright sunny days are wrong, but then with so much else missing from what was promised one has to ask will we have to pay for the weather too?
Just pulling your leg on that one, frankly I will judge the rest when I fly it which I hope is in the next week or two.

Much less than YOU have...

I don't know everything, but since I worked with Gennadish, then neoqb as benevolent helper since almost the start of the devlopment of this sim, I know a little bit more than you do about it.

You don't know what you're talking about.... the map is large, have you flown above it from one end to the other???
No... you're just assuming (wrongly) and presenting it lile the "truth", it's a typical volontary twist of the reality, and the clear show of mean intentions.

The map use an accurate elevation model over the whole area, and was developped using topomaps from 1900 (that I provided to the dev), who spent a lot of time digitizing the road network, the railways network, etc... with accurate positions.
That's the way neoqb works for every part of the sim... there's absolutly no way they will quickly and cheaply do a WWII sim or whatever fantasm coming directly from your twisted imagination.
You're only spreading false rumors with bad intentions... you're a lier and a Troll.
... and everybody will know it when they will be able to try the demo.

As usual, you're talking about yourself... ;)

IMHO ....Wasn't Zapatista one of the alias's used by the infamous Sgt Slaughter? I think I recall that name from the list that was posted over at Hyperlobby....

I think some of you are going over board on this...we don't need another zoo here

This is the IL2 forums, what do you expect?

SimHQ has a bunch different flight sims in their forums. You can share your joy of ROF there with like minded people. If you go to the iL2 boards there you'll probably get some more of the noise you don't want to hear.

I don't know anyone who has paid $45 for RoF.

I know I didn't, and I got free shipping as well.

Some of you guys need to get a life.

Really.

Ha-Ha-Ha... too late. These days I find the "zoo" to be a bit more interesting. ;)



By the way, a more effective price-point for add-on aeroplanes would be $4.99, not $5.

zapatista

ROF will be the next benchmark combat flight sim and at 39 bucks plus a few dollars for updates, its a steal. I'm sure I payed atleast 70 dollars Canadian for the first addition of IL-2 and it totalled alot more when you added all the later additions of the series. What we pay for Combat flight sims software is like stealing in my opinion.

SOW will be the new benchmark combat flight sim when its released in a year or two. ROF will go thru many years of updates before they can even think about building a WW2 sim on the ROF engine.

I'm sure the SOW developers are having considerable headaches putting
all the detailed terrain, hundreds of aircraft, advanced Weather Systems, FM's, DM's, and AI with playable frame rates. SOW could have been released a couple of years ago if they wanted the detail that ROF provides, but they are working on something they hope to be more advanced and cinematic.

ROF will do well to stick with WW1 combat flight sims for awhile until they refine their new ROF engine. They certainly seem to have the drive and talent to be a player in the combat flight sim genre for years to come. I know I'm looking forward to buying their products.

My thoughts exactly. At least for my personal taste, there's too many restrictions and an awful lot of things lacking to justify a full-game price. I'll get the demo when its released and see if the experience is good enough to warrant a purchase at its current half-finished state, otherwise i'll just wait for a few months until prices drop.

The original IL2 was limited and had its issues, just like RoF or any other new title for that matter. However, let's make an important distinction here that most people seem to miss or conveniently "forget". IL2 had most of what you needed to recreate the theater of war in question. RoF doesn't really have it.

Maybe we didn't have a flyable Stuka in the original IL2, but we still had an AI Stuka. RoF however doesn't have an AI Pfalz or AI Sopwith Pup/Camel and Se5a. It's not so much that it lacks flyables, it lacks AI aircraft too, important ones that had a big impact during the targeted timeframe.

It's a matter of branding and delivering what the title says. There are flight sims and there are combat flight sims. When i get a combat flight sim that has a "1917" subtitle, i expect to see the 1917 air war, not two flyable planes and half a dozen AI ones that make up a small percentage of the total. If you can't recreate the theater in question in an adequate manner, it's not a combat flight sim anymore, but a flight sim of an airshow with a handful of WWI planes.

No amount of FM/DM perfection or eye candy can change that, so until they add at least some more AI aircraft i will say it's incomplete. Of course, that's my personal opinion and others are free to judge differently and buy it. It's ok with me really as both sides will be happy in the end. They will get more hours of flying RoF and i will get a finished product thanks to them financing and beta testing it through its baby steps. ;)

When you'll buy RoF - you'll see many nice things in comparson to Il-2. This will be the first impression.
However in many items it is still far away even from Il-2.
Really I don't afraid if they will do WWII era aircraft. They need couple of years hard work if not more just to catch or reach our level in BoB at all in all items. Alos they have some limits for modeling of WWII eara aircraft in their engine and they soon will understand it themselves..

Read my interview on SimHq about our goal and my and Ilya opinion about situation on the Flight Sim market.

Also... I never promise or advertize things, that didn't went in final production... in comparison to some other developers.