:rolleyes:

The other jewel was the Mig 3, you could bring it out of longitudinal stability, and go out flying as a shuriken. It was a flat spin at high speed. Then was the 190 slower than il2.

Also landing at some point was very difficult, because a P39 won't slow down.

Later came the 190 and i16 rolling over at take off, if at full throttle. But this was allready FB. We have to relearn this sim plenty of times, and allways there was someone discordant with the flight model. Right now, it will be better to stop for a while on that, and take care on other aspects much more important for the improvement of this sim. Specially playability.

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i have the original il sturmovic and i think it's hard but i like it so far the best
i just haven't been able to master it and have many questions about it
for one what updates do i need and i did try one but it won't work in my win 8
i first bought the game just to pla on my pc but that was a few years ago like when the game first came out
i haven't played since and started to play it and would like to play on line can any one help
also i have paciific fighters and lock on it all came together as the ultimate flight collection
is all that out dated and will i need to buy the game again
someon please help

I've gotten suckered into buying collections of obsolete games too.

You want IL2:1946 from a bargain bin ($10 or less) and then all the patches to get to what level you will play. At every successful patch, make a backup and keep the backups that let you run the mods you want.

If you want to play online with many others, that is what you need.

Maybe its due to Windows 8?

This. Never, ever, f****** buy this gem from Steam, EVER. At least from GoG you OWN it and can play with it WHENEVER you want to.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...rds=IL2%3A1946

I did the highlight below. Shipping will be added to those.