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I flew couple of sorties with farber, and he`s absolutely not an ideological one way street.

I am german and i had my thoughts about this topic, but for me it`s just a plane and at least just a simulator that i play and got nothing to do with my attitude of life.

:rolleyes:

I think that everyone should be aware of the things that happened in history. That's the best way to learn, concerning all mistakes every single nation did in the past.
After all it had to be done, fighting rhe nazi regime in WW 2 to avoid the genocide of Jews and to stop the nazis and their ideology.
I for my part have the distance and the knowledge to maintain the distance to fly a bf-109, because i like the flying in that plane more, than in a spit or hurry. (But i like more the shape of the spit, to be true!)

To follow on from what you are saying here (but not in response to you for what you are saying...

Freedom and freedom of speech, is people being able to move about freely, to associate, to choose their work, to write, to read, etc and the freedom to be able voice thoughts and feelings without fear - it does not mean one has the freedom to do or say whatever they please.

Germans still in denial about WWII I see. 20 milion people killed is not enough for you?

Yes, +1 betrayal is the right word here.

Yes because the British should have fought an unwinnable war alone against the Russians just so Britain could have been part of the Soviet Union too, makes perfect sense to do this immediately after a war which practically broke our country.

I was thinking of his sig picture before the mods insisted he change it. Never seen so many swastikas in one place. Please take your insults somewhere else.

Yet, you don't even know that your country is indeed part of what we call Europe :-P

I understand what you mean. I have very similar perspective on German / British people. I spend considerable amount of time in both countries and I agree that you are, in a way, very very similar indeed. This has nothing to do with today's politics. As for the personal feelings flying for the bad guys or for the good guys, we are spending our evenings in the Summer of 2012 by shooting pixels on other guys sipping beer in their living rooms, that is quite different to the Summer of 1940 and boys climbing in ther Messerschmitts or Hurricanes.

If I'd be having your kind of hard feelings, I would not be able to fly for the Luftwaffe, because these German guys split my country and as a result our pilots fly the 109s against the Russians, who I can't fly either although some of our pilots were good with their Lavochkas and also because they bloody invaded us later on. I can't fly the USAAF because they dropped bombs on us and killed our pilots trying to make them bomb somewhere else. I can't fly for the Hungarians because we had a war with them early on and I can't fly the RAF although there were also some pilots in the same time when the other ones flew their 109s and they were enemies.

As you can clearly see, I can't fly any simulators because of my feelings and I would be obliged to be shooting down myself, which is is very tricky:

http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/Tiger138260.htm

I get the feeling that this thread is going to show the REAL trolls of the community not the ones that are fed up of a buggy game but the ones that think if you fly blue it means you support there ideology.

Before you say anything about me I am British, was born in Germany and I can't stand patriots.

I have long forgotten why I started flying blue but my first few years playing il2 were spent flying for the reds. I now fly blue mainly due to my love of the engineering behind the 109 and 190 plus they just look so mean :D

Truth be told at the release of cod I almost quit JG52 to look for an RAF side and I have participated occasionally with 56raf squad sorties on ATAG :)

That is very true. It was the utter aggression and expansive politics of the English politicians AND people that was behind the outbreak of the Second world war. It was Mr. Churchill who plotted the evil plan to take over after Chamberlain and get some small shitty countries to call themselves Great Britain. It was the poor small peaceful Germany with calm and loving chap in the lead who wanted to be left alone. Instead, they were stabbed in their loving hearts by WLS Churchill. Such a sad story that was.

Well said Krupi. It's hilarious how people see things because of a computer game with aircraft.