Nothing??

Really, think about it, every pilot has to account for it in their flight planning.

We will come back to it and here is a huge hint, if you recognize it.

Tell me, what is the difference between these too formula's?

Both formulat's express the same thing.

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/3659/vw1o.jpg

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7158/vw2du.jpg

I am begining to think the men in the VVS were not so stupid, huh!

You certainly cannot explain it and you are pilot, right?

Yes it was obviously but that's not what I am getting at, I don't have agendas, it was primarily useless because it was incomplete, and any subsequent development inspired by the design were quite changed....almost like everyone who saw it knew there were improvements to be made.

How does Crumpp know that Camm was referring to the wing itself when he was shown it? And how does he know it was the sweep itself that he was referring to as useless? He doesn't, it's an assumption. There is no recording nor official transcript of the conversation to gather context therefore zero proof.

Crummp, i know he's a pilot for a fact, i know what he flies, you on the other hand i am doubtful.

you can whine all you like, them's the facts.

Yes...even PPL's, so how does it come a major research institution was unaware of the difference?

Yes I am, just like the copies of my commercial pilot's licence showed in the other thread, but I am not an amateur internet aerodynamicist so your graphs and walls of copy/pasted text etc etc hold no interest to me.

Osprey,

Sir Sydney Camm's reaction was typical in fact. Most of the aeronautical engineering community in the world had very little knowledge of swept wing theory, compressibility effects, and transonic flight.

An engineer in the United States had been doing some parallel work on swept wing theory and mach effects. His work was not considered mainstream or accepted by the majority of his colleagues until after the war when the German findings confirmed his....

No all of this related to the original poster's interesting anecdotes.

Really??

So, how was the United States able to produce the atom bomb?

They were aware of things nobody else was aware of!!!

Is it really a surprise that someone in advance of others in specific areas would develop things those without that specific knowledge could not explain????

I see you are avoiding answering the question. Please do your best!! It is ok and I expect you do not know the answer.

They express the same thing.

So you are sticking with the theory that the Russians were too stupid to understand the difference between IAS and TAS?

Go ahead and quote where I said this? It is a fact this is patently false.

You are just trying to get the thread locked, now.

Please answer the quesiton, you are pilot, right?

Have you found out the difference between the German notations for Vw and Vwck?

In order for your fantasy theory of "Russians were too stupid to understand" theory to be advanced...this answer to the difference between Vw and Vwck must be common knowledge that only an idiot would not see.

You are pilot, what is the answer to these two questions?

Just admit you don't know and I will explain it for you and everybody else. If you can't do that, I will explain it in a few days.

No......I don't want to answer your pointless question, it proves 'nothing'.

Presumably when you look it up...

OK so you didn't say the Russians were too stupid verbatim, but by implication that is exactly what you are saying.

@Uther....before you decide to give me a holiday I will just remind that I simply asked a question and Crumpp decided to come back with sarcasm and accusation, one of us is a real pilot and only one of us came up with proof, I hope people will realise an actual pilot's license kinda beats internet quotes in that department.

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Just sayin.