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JG52Krupi 05-16-2012 12:07 PM

The game is very very stable for me since the beta patch.

It still has rough edges sure but I am really enjoying it I just don't have the time ATM :(

carguy_ 05-16-2012 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 426376)
Carguy, I agree that communication is getting better.

I don`t see anything wrong with your first post, other than it is offtopic. I could copy it and paste as my own. Writing down facts is not whining.

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I just have lost hope that this entire franchise will ever work. I'm not talking about just CloD. How can they move on to another theater when they are no closer, in reality, to having a stable game engine?
I always wondered why you need to repeatedly write this, as an offtopic in another thread. I thought we have the Crystal Ball thread for this. Maybe this is news for you, but I also am losing any faith. The results are too small as opposed to the time they took. I may just write few lines about it in a whine topic. But since this thread was meant to be positive, why you need to break it up I don`t understand.
Sometimes I think that people do not have enough imagination to know that the biggest losers, day by day, are the 1C team working on CloD. BlackSix wrote that CloD is their lives and I don`t see anything false in that. When you depend on your work and you can`t get the results you wanted it is frustrating. A whole lot more than any of the appointed whiners on this forum. But they`re trying. If they make it, you`re going to finally get you moneys worth. What is wrong with supporting getting to have your moneys worth?
If CloD fails, the whiners will have another topic to write about, maybe it will ruin their day. Some might even shoot somebody as losing 40$ (equal to a cheap dinner) poses so many woes to some on this forum. The 1C team will lose their jobs, money for a living. They have already lost 95% of Oleg Maddox` credibility. I don`t see how you could even think of comparing the two.

scotchegg 05-16-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MadTommy (Post 425712)
Whilst its nice to have a post every now and then by a community manager... the feedback and communication by the Develops is still by far the worst i have seen on a sim.

You seem to be ignorant of the communication on other major sims. Ever heard of Microsoft communicating any dev information at all? Want to take a look at the comments on Flight's FB page? They've even disabled comments on their website now.

Icebear 05-16-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by scotchegg (Post 426407)
You seem to be ignorant of the communication on other major sims. Ever heard of Microsoft communicating any dev information at all? Want to take a look at the comments on Flight's FB page? They've even disabled comments on their website now.

Even though I also appreciate this "new producer/consumer relationship"; your comparison is flawed, not to mention b*llshit!

Microsoft never released a disastrous software like CloD. They never let their clients wait for month for another experimental alpha version with limitations and full of bugs. Maybe Microsoft disabled comments on their website, but I know a company that simply deletes threads and ban the authors.

With all respect, a new producer/consumer relationship is the minumum we can expect. Let's hope and pray that this was not just a single "warm saturday in May mood"

;)

scotchegg 05-16-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebear (Post 426429)
Even though I also appreciate this "new producer/consumer relationship"; your comparison is flawed, not to mention b*llshit!

Microsoft never released a disastrous software like CloD. They never let their clients wait for month for another experimental alpha version with limitations and full of bugs. Maybe Microsoft disabled comments on their website, but I know a company that simply deletes threads and ban the authors.

With all respect, a new producer/consumer relationship is the minumum we can expect. Let's hope and pray that this was not just a single "warm saturday in May mood"

;)

Don't see how the comparison is flawed. They're both flight sims with devs on one side and frustrated customers waiting for months for improvements on the other. Where's the flaw?

Maybe some threads have been deleted here for going against forum rules, but there is communication, however unsatisfactory to you, between the devs and the users. There is absolutely none for Flight and as far as I know none for FSX either.

robtek 05-16-2012 02:38 PM

Flightsimulator X was for me in a even worse shape than CoD when i tried it the first time!!!
I couldn't even get a normal view then.

FS~looksharp 05-17-2012 07:42 PM

what about microsoft combat flight simulator 3..... that was total pants

my self and other pals waited ages for that sim to come out after enjoying combat flight simulator 2, when it did come out....... well the rest is history

long live the IL2 series

mayestdo 05-17-2012 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 426376)
Carguy, I agree that communication is getting better.

I just have lost hope that this entire franchise will ever work. I'm not talking about just CloD. How can they move on to another theater when they are no closer, in reality, to having a stable game engine?

It's just taking too long.

The publisher will not continue to throw money at this project.

It's just my opinion of course, but I don't see any other outcome.

I'm not happy about it, nor am I gloating or glad, like some here are.

+1

Robert 05-18-2012 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by looksharp (Post 426999)
what about microsoft combat flight simulator 3..... that was total pants

my self and other pals waited ages for that sim to come out after enjoying combat flight simulator 2, when it did come out....... well the rest is history

long live the IL2 series

As pants as MSCFS3 was, the folks responsible for "Over Flander's Field" have done a great job making a WW1 flight sim. It still has it's draw backs, but it is fun.... though admittedly I haven't flown it in a while.

retrojet 05-18-2012 03:09 AM

DIY... if you think it's easy... it must be...
Are you going to whine that it cost $50 or whatever? about as much as some spend on burgers, beer and broads in a month hahaha!
:rolleyes:


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