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ATAG_Doc 04-25-2012 01:22 AM

That's a lot of cheddar for a Spitfire simulator that doesn't even have a single bullet.

ATAG_Dutch 04-25-2012 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper (Post 414507)
Doc, it can cost a freaking TON -- which Dutch warned me about.

:lol:

But I think I know that now you're there, you just won't stop!!

'Think I'll try this photo scenery!' :grin:

'Think I'll buy a Lancaster!' :grin:

'Think I'll buy my local airport in photo real gfx!' :grin:

'Think I'll sell the wife!' :lol:

Then your force feedback stops working for no apparent reason and you say 'bollox microsoft! you can kiss my bottom, I'm not playing anymore!' :evil:

Then you go back to moaning about the Spit's FM in Cliffs of Dover................:grin:

Charly_Owl 04-25-2012 01:28 AM

I decided to try A2A out, buying Prepar3d (Lockheed Martin's FSX since they bought Microsoft their license) instead of FSX, and to try the Spitfire out at the same time.

And wow... that 30 minutes-flight I did with it flying in the Alps... that was an amazing experience! Flying this plane was just pure childish fun. I might have paid a bit for it, but I believe it's definitely worth it if you enjoy flying just for fun.

Codex 04-25-2012 01:40 AM

Well I've bought Accusim P-47 when it came out and CLassic Hangers Fw-190A series. For me they're are fun to fly, they're very well modelled, and they make me "feel" like a real pilot having to monitor all the systems.

I just wish someone would produce a flight sim Accusims level of fidelity and CloDs combat. Not too much to ask is it? ;)

Classic Hanger FW-190 ...

cockpit familiarization
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwXBlmJLtB8

engine startup and taxying
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfbU5DtUPb4

fuel management
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDM37W7K8rA

landing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ga6e9NfsZ0

Walrus1 04-25-2012 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper (Post 414507)
Doc, it can cost a freaking TON -- which Dutch warned me about. First you have to have Microsoft Simulator FSX: $40.98 Amazon.ca

The basic A2A Wings of Power 3 Spitfire: $29.99
A2A Accusim bundled in: +$19.99

Then there's Real Extreme Environment $ more
Then there's Ground Environment X $ more
Oh, add in some NASA-approved Canadian scenery: $ more
Oh, better get some Canadian Ultimate Traffic X $ more
Hmmm, how about that X-Rated Spitgirl? $$$$$ more
Prefer blonde (natural) add-on to that? $ more
And a friend? $$$ more

You get the picture... :)

It seems like alot. But how much did you pay for that Thrustmaster HOTAS? Those go for over $400. Isn't the software worth paying a few hundred dollars for too?

ATAG_Snapper 04-25-2012 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Walrus1 (Post 414608)
It seems like alot. But how much did you pay for that Thrustmaster HOTAS? Those go for over $400. Isn't the software worth paying a few hundred dollars for too?

Not complaining. Just the opposite, actually. Simply answering his question, with a bit of humour on the side. You can't really get a Spitgirl for A2A, much less a blonde one with a friend. So that reduces the cost substantially. ;)

Walrus1 04-25-2012 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper (Post 414613)
Not complaining. Just the opposite, actually. Simply answering his question, with a bit of humour on the side. You can't really get a Spitgirl for A2A, much less a blonde one with a friend. So that reduces the cost substantially. ;)

OK, understood.

One thing I have never understood is the set of people on this forum bitterly complaining that they paid all of $50 (or whatever the price has gone to now) for CoD, and that they are so disappointed with it.

Given the complexity of the sim/game, and comparing it to various other simulation or other software titles, it seems like a bargain, warts and all. Not to mention comparing it to how much they pay for the graphics cards and other hardware to play it on.

Getting back to A2A, wow it looks amazing (and tempting!)

ATAG_Snapper 04-25-2012 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Walrus1 (Post 414617)
OK, understood.

One thing I have never understood is the set of people on this forum bitterly complaining that they paid all of $50 (or whatever the price has gone to now) for CoD, and that they are so disappointed with it.

Given the complexity of the sim/game, and comparing it to various other simulation or other software titles, it seems like a bargain, warts and all. Not to mention comparing it to how much they pay for the graphics cards and other hardware to play it on.

Getting back to A2A, wow it looks amazing (and tempting!)

No worries, mate. See my post #29. we're on the same wavelength. If the CoD aircraft had the same degree of cockpit complexity, dogfighting would be quite a handful. But Dutch gave me fair warning, the add-ons get truly addictive. I just added on a 3rd party Canadian scenery download because it gives me a kick flying a Spitfire over my Kitchener, Ontario neighbourhood. LOL

DennydD 04-25-2012 10:15 AM

Sound and graphic...
 
A2A sound is beautiful. I judge those things easy: I have a glass working table. In A2A the table vibrates. In the real Spit video the table vibrates. In CoD it does not. =>Indicator that something is missing. :grin:
Sooner or later the devs look at it or one of the modders will do. (Sound modding should be opened to the modder community if it is not already!)

Graphic wise is CoD the eye catcher. If you look at the shadows and the reflexion on the gages. Thats just wow.

Regarding the FM: I only consume the FM and have to life with the reality the sim presents to me but there are guys on this forums who do realy have a clue and they help CoD improving.

S!

Walrus1 04-25-2012 04:18 PM

If I were to scrape the $ together to buy A2A and develop a level of familiarity and competence, I worry that the small ambition in the back of my mind to step into a real live aircraft and get my wings would become greater and greater.

And then you are talking serious money...


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