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FC99 04-26-2012 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mayshine (Post 415183)
yes, should have been more pronounced

TAIC is "Technical Air Intelligence Center".It was established Washington, D.C. (Anacostia) in 1944, as a joint Army-Navy organization with British participation. To this center was assigned the responsibility of collection, evaluation, and dissemination of all technical intelligence on the Japanese Air Forces.

That's why they tested P-47 and Zero (lot of other planes as well) and 100 yards(~100m ) was the difference between real planes in test. If you think that difference should be bigger than maybe you have to adjust your expectations to match the reality.

zxwings 04-26-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FC99 (Post 415045)
In TAIC test between the Zero and P-47 when they started the dive from 10000ft at 220MPH IAS and dived until Zero reached maximum allowed speed (325MPH IAS). It took 30 seconds for that and the P-47 had 100 yards advantage over Zero.

Disapointing, isn't it? :grin:

Diving vertically down? Or at what angle to the ground?

JtD 04-26-2012 06:40 PM

From the top of my head, 30 degrees.

SaQSoN 04-26-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mayshine (Post 415183)
yes, should have been more pronounced

We all here agree, that real life rarely meets our expectations. Particularly, when someone thinks, he is wa-a-ay much better pilot, then he actually is. :lol:

BadAim 04-26-2012 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mayshine (Post 415187)
I do not agree

1. cut wing and round end wing are different very much from each other
2. power are different, Tempest has 2000 HP while Zero has only 1200 HP.
3. weight for La is around 2000kg when FW is 4000Kg or more

I dont think they can perform in the same way during the diving

The only person I heard talking about the Zero was talking about real pilots flying real aircraft during a real war.

The aircraft that you were talking about were contemporary competing designs which in the big picture had similar overall performance, that was what I was referring to.

Now please go ahead and and continue arguing the same point ad nauseum for our amusement.

BadAim 04-26-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SaQSoN (Post 415482)
We all here agree, that real life rarely meets our expectations. Particularly, when someone thinks, he is wa-a-ay much better pilot, then he actually is. :lol:

LOL, what he said.....a man's got to know his limitations.

csThor 04-27-2012 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by zxwings (Post 415286)
Diving vertically down? Or at what angle to the ground?

[Smart@ss comment] Maybe they measured the distance between the two impact craters. http://usefulshortcuts.com/imgs/skyp...136-giggle.gif [/Smart@ss comment]


;)

jameson 04-27-2012 09:11 AM

I've posted this before but for the OP and others who seem to have little idea: The soundtrack is great BTW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NWaHlnI_LQ

mayshine 04-27-2012 04:32 PM

Badaim, Saqson

Teasing and joking doesnt help you to improve yourself:-x

I am not here without proof or prepare

why can not you guys sit down and do the reaserch seriously

What u r laughing only shows your ignorance

I am disapointing with your "senior member" title

mayshine 04-27-2012 04:40 PM

u will have to calculate a lot of factors before you can laught at me

shape, zero floating resistance, engine power, weight, propeller type and condition, deformation for the plane at different speed...and so on

Who were laughting at this topic are really simple mind and ignorant

I am here to help to improve IL2, to provide simers the best expierience,
instead of seeing some jokers.

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D team member, and who do not want to be the joker

Please check this like for ME262 compare documentation

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...erman-jets.pdf


and do the test in the Il2 4.11

here is the test in IL2 4.11 for the diving

starting altitude 5000m, throttle 100, stating speed 300km/h,
testing scope : 300 to 700 km/h

the result is below

Bf109G6as: 12s

Me262:11.7s


Isnt it showing something ridiculous?


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