Oleg: Pilots win dogfights. Not airplanes. If a pilot is not particularly good, regardless of a plane, he’ll always have a sinking feeling that something somewhere is wrong… and not everyone is willing to admit that the fault lies within.

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Attila, I hope you are being sarcastic. :)

If the performance of 109 did worsen, then I have no idea how lot of us are still out climbing the brits :)

Were you flying the e3 or the e4? They have worse (e4 has the worst) climb rate, but they are still better than the brits (minus the Spit IIas). If they are on your six already, you won't be able to just climb away unless they are bad shots.

Also, remember that players' skill improve, the same people who shot you down 6 months ago must have improved their gunnery and flying skills.

The most deadly flack seems to be friendly flack.. I have been knocked down and killed more by friendly flack than enemy flack…

The 109 has the ability to dictate the fight from an equal energy start against a Spit 1, 1a and even the Rotol (but you have to be very careful against the Rotol as a mistake will most likely get you shot down). That however is not to say that you can just jump in a 109 and whack Spits and Hurris at will. The 109 has to be flown with discipline and extended turn fights leave you extremely vulnerable. When I fly the 109 on ATAG I tend to stick with quick bounces and maintain my energy and avoid prolonged turning duels, whereas when I am flying the Rotol I try and get the 109 driver to engage in a turn fight as this levels the playing field quickly.

JD
AKA_MattE

Real classy guys. I think it safe to say we have seen the AI do all kinds of ridiculous stuff and aren't subject to blackouts or red-outs. Tell me Ace, what tool do I use to measure the triple barrel rolls that stop on a dime and reverse and barrel roll again to know that they are not right?

Gotta love the fans, always willing to help a fellow member.

Exactly! Last night on ATAG when I flew my Hurricane (no rotol!) I got really humiliated by a 109 pilot. He was yo-yoing up and down whilst I was on the deck desperately trying to meet him head-on at every pass he made. I had the biggest of luck though, I hit him in the first pass and he got a fuel leak which he didn't notice so after quite a few minutes of desperate evasive maneuvers he finally ran out of juice and took a dip in to the cold channel.

As I said before, if it's a good pilot the 109 is absolutely deadly.

And the 50's on all the allies planes are under modelled too!!

I find the above pretty amusing. Not because its wrong or something like that, but because its almost word-by-word the same tactical advice as 109 pilots were given in 1940:

"Before turning fights with the Bf 109 E type, it must be noted in every case, that all three foreign planes have significantly smaller turning circles and turning times. An attack on the opponent as well as disengagement can only be accomplished on the basis of existing superiority in performance."

from tactical recommendation based on flight trials at E'Stelle Rechlin, August 1940.
http://www.kurfurst.org/Tactical_tri...g_Aug1940.html

Hehe I remember that, probably around the time the P51 was introduced with the AEP . iirc




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I will remember those words:cool: