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bongodriver 01-16-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 380529)
thats it....we agreed

Debateable......it just raises the doubt over the 'inherently broken game' theory, if it works on my machine it can be made to work on the rest.....and that is what they are trying to do.

Feathered_IV 01-16-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 380459)
2013 at the earliest.

They would have to find someone to bankroll them in the meantime. Imagine giving another 8 million to MG based on their last efforts (!)

2013 sounds like a reasonable timeframe for a reasonably polished product. Although I'm thinking circumstances will instead demand a somewhat half-arsed product for 2012, with a lolly scramble to plug the gaps in 2013.

Tvrdi 01-16-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 380534)
Debateable......it just raises the doubt over the 'inherently broken game' theory, if it works on my machine it can be made to work on the rest.....and that is what they are trying to do.

Nope. Simmilar was with ROF. Some of us had almost the same machines but some couldnt play without serious issues; very noticable drop of performance (FPS drop, stutters etc) and some had really smooth game. Same is here but with more dramatival differencies. THAT HAPPENS usually with games which are not OPTIMISED well.....ARMA had some issues earlier too. So all the roads lead to optimisation....I dont even mind lack of content or how the landscape look..just give me the sim which I can play decently.

kalimba 01-16-2012 01:27 PM

IMHO, this is pure economics...Even if they fix COD , they will have to give for free the patches, the hotfixes and all the new features promised in the initial release....We did buy un unfinnished product...
But by putting all their efforts on a new game rather than the planned Add-On( whatever theater) based on what was done on COD, and sell it as a new sim, they will be able to get some new fresh money. New release at Xmas 2012 makes sense then....
Then, after, maybe, they will retrofit some of the new features in COD.
Its the only sensitive way to go....

Salute !

mcdaniels 01-16-2012 01:32 PM

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No Battle for Moscow for me, until they fix the CLOD.
+1

I accepted the not working comm.
I accepted the scripted Campaign.
I accepted the FPS drops.

..but I really cannot accept the CTD. I know, always the same "bla bla bla" :-).

For me CloD is a really nice sim, no question!

Is it possible that the main focus of the devs is concentrating to the sequel?

JG5_emil 01-16-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mcdaniels (Post 380544)
+1

I accepted the not working comm.
I accepted the scripted Campaign.
I accepted the FPS drops.

..but I really cannot accept the CTD. I know, always the same "bla bla bla" :-).

For me CloD is a really nice sim, no question!

Is it possible that the main focus of the devs is concentrating to the sequel?

I think they're doing it in parallel. I would imagine they will try to give us the minimum fixes to get the game stable and playable but without much more content. Alongside that they'll be doing everything they can to get BOM out the door to bring in more money. The workload for BOM won't be anything like CLOD as once they've got the engine working properly it's just a matter of maps and cockpits etc.

Then they can give us things that were promised for CLOD like dynamic weather? Better AI? and other improvements.

I'm not holding out too much for the next couple if they fix the crashes and make sure the Fm is right then that's a start!

kalimba 01-16-2012 03:05 PM

We are kind of a "captive" community...No more other real good ww2 air combat sim out there.
So , just by curiosity, lets pretend that 1C had completely abandonned CLOD,
but was able to come out with a full featured new game with Moscow theater in September of 2012 , with all the bells and whisles as promised in CLOD,
would you forgive 1C and run to buy it ? If most of us are thinking "YEAH !", then this is probably what we will get....To be honnest, those of us who are still reading and writing on 1C's forums are all craving for a top notch game....We are addicts...SO whatever the price, we will still be there to buy anything good 1C is going to put out....I think they know that...;)

Salute !

Tree_UK 01-16-2012 03:11 PM

All that im waiting for is the fix for the CTD, before that I was waiting for the multi-player sound fix, the game as never been playable for me without a major problem. When the CTD is fixed maybe I cant start to sing its praises but its going to have to be amazing to justify the long wait pre-release and then the fix post release. I have never in 20 years of gaming ever purchased a product that was so bad out of the box in terms of bugs and completely unfinished features.

MadBlaster 01-16-2012 03:14 PM

Can I start calling it the "Battle for Moose and Cows" now, or do I have to wait for the official announcement?:-P

kalimba 01-16-2012 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 380569)
All that im waiting for is the fix for the CTD, before that I was waiting for the multi-player sound fix, the game as never been playable for me without a major problem. When the CTD is fixed maybe I cant start to sing its praises but its going to have to be amazing to justify the long wait pre-release and then the fix post release. I have never in 20 years of gaming ever purchased a product that was so bad out of the box in terms of bugs and completely unfinished features.

That bad ? I tought the majority was able to play the game as is on good machines...
But I still think that the new game will be out before major patching is done on COD...Hope I am wrong !:rolleyes:

Salute !


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