Official Fulqrum Publishing forum

Official Fulqrum Publishing forum (http://forum.fulqrumpublishing.com/index.php)
-   FM/DM threads (http://forum.fulqrumpublishing.com/forumdisplay.php?f=196)
-   -   sound radar is back ... naaaaaaah! (http://forum.fulqrumpublishing.com/showthread.php?t=27981)

Winger 11-21-2011 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l3uLLDoZeR (Post 363257)
I fly with the canopy open in the hurricane. I think you should be able to hear to some extent. I have no idea how much I should be able to hear, do u fly around in open cockpit biplanes or something that you know what it sounds like?

As long as it is possible to fly with open canopy without having serious performance hit by doing so its in my eyes to be considered as a cheat.

Fly with it open but if you do suffer from the energyloss it brings.

This needs to be adressed in my opinion. For both sides. Heck droping the 109s canopy doesnt even have ANY negative sideeffects. That shitty. However its one of the samaller issues i consider as "not so urgent to fix".

Winger

ATAG_Septic 11-21-2011 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winger (Post 363395)
As long as it is possible to fly with open canopy without having serious performance hit by doing so its in my eyes to be considered as a cheat.

Fly with it open but if you do suffer from the energyloss it brings.

This needs to be adressed in my opinion. For both sides. Heck droping the 109s canopy doesnt even have ANY negative sideeffects. That shitty. However its one of the samaller issues i consider as "not so urgent to fix".

Winger

I agree Winger. I can't bring myself to fly with the canopy open, it's just so unrealistic and the wind noise is a nuisance. I will open it if I fear I may need to bail for instance.

klem 11-21-2011 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 363384)
Switching on your reflector sight makes a click which is loud enough to be heard over a thousand horsepower engine. You can also hear bullets impact on a machine 100m ahead of you. While your airframe will scream louder than a T-rex, yet the wings will stay on.

+1

Curiously, I never hear the impact of bullets on my own airframe.

Anyone else?

TomcatViP 11-21-2011 01:02 PM

Sry boys but it's not the supercharger sound that give the Corsair its nickname.

Vought worked hard with Hamilton to fit the Huge PW with a low speed prop. The idea was to get a higher Mach at alt for the airplane in a very clean configuration despite (very relatively) the radial engine

The side effect was that in a high speed dive, the prop tips reached the speed of sound with the typical whine as a result.

Regarding the pic Tiger posted : how many Spit ace can tell me how that pilot cld enjoy the same rear view as we hve in CoD ? :rolleyes:

@Klem : I hear them more and more scarcely

Gollum 11-21-2011 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 363394)
The reason was simple: ground attacks to troops.

Tuche'... If this is true I withdraw my statement and request the whines be too low to be heard when one runs their engine at full power. A blanket would still not work though because you would be able to hear other planes while running your engine at idle no? Or is the idle of the engine so loud that you still wouldn't be able to hear other planes diving on you?>

winny 11-21-2011 01:37 PM

Duno if this is helpful or not,

I've read hundreds (literally) of BoB era pilot's accounts. The only time they mention being able to hear enemy aircraft is when they were extremley close. It seems to happen more with head on attacks and almost always the pilot says something like "I was so close I could hear the engines" Geoff Wellum, Peter Townsend, one of the Dundas brothers (can't remember which one), Brian Lane and quite a few others.

Another similarity is that this happened as they broke underneath the enemy after a head on attack - a bit closer than they'd like 5-10 meters. I'll try and dig out some of the quotes, one of them was a mid air collision with a 109, the pilot said he heard the 109 just before they crashed.

I also recall one Spit pilot flying in cloud with his canopy open hearing a LW Bomber before he saw it, it was about 10 meters off his wing.

6S.Manu 11-21-2011 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomcatViP (Post 363403)
Regarding the pic Tiger posted : how many Spit ace can tell me how that pilot cld enjoy the same rear view as we hve in CoD ? :rolleyes:

This is another thing I wanted to mod in 1946: a straps intensity simulation that influence the pilot's head movement.

So a pilot need to pass from a "cruise mode" to "combat mode": I know that P51 had a usefull level to tight/untight their straps in a second, while in other planes pilots need to do it manually.

No sound radar, no Reed Richards in the cockpit... maybe you can ambush an enemy plane without having to bnz at 600km/h but simply moving closer.

Skoshi Tiger 11-21-2011 10:19 PM

There seams to be an issue here! Some people say that they can hear the whine and some people say that they can't hear the whine.

Maybe it's not the actual aircaft thats making the noise!

Could it be something to do with the pilot?







[Skoshi Tiger - Hurried exit stage left] ;)

Insuber 11-21-2011 10:28 PM

Yes Tiger, when I dive on Hurricanes and Spits I use to whine loudly about the sound radar, that's what actually gives me away.

Seriously, it is one of the worst bugs IMHO.

Cheers,
Insuber

PolishEagle1939 11-21-2011 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomcatViP (Post 363403)

The side effect was that in a high speed dive, the prop tips reached the speed of sound with the typical whine as a result.

I've read it was the oil coolers in the wing that made the sound. Do you have reference for this Tomcat? Not starting an argument just trying to gain knowledge. Thanks


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:35 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2007 Fulqrum Publishing. All rights reserved.