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Madfish 10-09-2011 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SNAFU (Post 346052)
The point is quite simple:

We aim with one eye, on a rifle, a pistol, 125mm cannon and so did the pilots back in those days and the pilots nowadays (the leading eye, even though we have a HUD-gun-cone or something else).

And that is actually where you're so totally wrong mate.

You do NOT ever close the second eye. They're called reflector gunsights (also called reflex sight) and even simple rifles use them. For example the German HK G36
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflector_sight
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler...och_G36#Sights

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Compared to standard telescopic sights, a reflector sight with no magnification can be held at any distance from the eye (don’t require a designed eye relief), and at almost any angle, without distorting the image of the target or reticle. They are often used with both eyes open (the brain will tend to automatically superimpose the illuminated reticle image coming from the dominant eye onto the other eye's unobstructed view), giving the shooter normal depth perception and full field of view. Since Reflector sights are not dependent on eye relief, they can theoretically be placed in any mechanically-convenient mounting position on a weapon.
Basically what you do is you look through it with both eyes open but the right eye (or the left eye for that matter) looks directly through the sight. The aiming spot will "magically" appear in front of you. It's an ingenious trickery of our eyes and works perfectly.

The screenshot posted in this thread is accurate and this is how it should be implemented in the game.

Friedric 10-13-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CWMV (Post 345487)
So what exactly do you want, something that is factually incorrect, but pretty?

No want it history correct thats all :)

ZaltysZ 10-13-2011 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 345494)
Are you sure about this?

Yes, but pay attention to "in relation to glass". If you move closer, you can say: reticle gets smaller in relation to glass, and you can also say glass gets bigger in relation to reticle - depending on which reference point you like.

Sternjaeger II 10-13-2011 11:10 AM

guys, make a little experiment yourselves: sit in your car and put a square piece of white paper on your dashboard, it will show its reflection on the windscreen: if you move your head forward and backward it gives the impression of changing in size, but it actually doesn't, it's only because you're looking at it from a different distance, to further prove this put your fingers on the edges of the reflected piece of paper, you will see it doesn't change.

German gunsights worked with the "dominant eye" principle: statistically most people have a right dominant eye, that's why it was a bit offset to the right.

As someone else mentioned above, it's the same thing with the red dot sights that you can now mount on guns: people keep on doing the mistake of closing one of their eyes to aim, but it's meant for natural shooting, all you need to do is look at the red dot, place it on the target and it's a hit.

41Sqn_Stormcrow 10-13-2011 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 348655)
guys, make a little experiment yourselves: sit in your car and put a square piece of white paper on your dashboard, it will show its reflection on the windscreen: if you move your head forward and backward it gives the impression of changing in size, but it actually doesn't, it's only because you're looking at it from a different distance, to further prove this put your fingers on the edges of the reflected piece of paper, you will see it doesn't change.

German gunsights worked with the "dominant eye" principle: statistically most people have a right dominant eye, that's why it was a bit offset to the right.

As someone else mentioned above, it's the same thing with the red dot sights that you can now mount on guns: people keep on doing the mistake of closing one of their eyes to aim, but it's meant for natural shooting, all you need to do is look at the red dot, place it on the target and it's a hit.

+1

I endorse this. It took me a fair bit of time and a good deal of patience from Lixma (where is this guy btw. Was always nice to discuss with him) until I understood. And made my own little experiments that confirmed this.

One eye looking through the sight with the other eye open will make the circle wobble apparently in the air as long as the one eye catches the circle. This is how it should be implemented.


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