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Rattlehead 08-19-2011 08:58 AM

Well I just ordered Bullit and Vanishing Point, and threw in The Great Escape as a bonus. :cool: I haven't seen that one in many years.

Sternjaeger II 08-19-2011 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by baronWastelan (Post 325038)
I would love to see your pretty Italian kettle keeping up with my old "beefed up Beetle" for a day of flat out driving on the track. The clouds of steam and smoke from your radiator and brakes after a couple hours would be most entertaining :-D

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6.../993-track.jpg

Typical Porsche mentality, you think you drive the best of what's around :rolleyes:

Diesel engines have been kicking all kinds of ar$e and winning in the 24 Hours of Le Mans, I wouldn't go there in terms of endurance.. As for the brakes, I have upgraded performance brakes installed on mine, I'm sure it would cope just fine.. mine's not a rear wheel drive, but you appreciate that on a long track day you don't necessarily need that..

Porsche drivers are no different than other petrolheads, the delusional aspect is that they really think they drive the best cars in the world. Truth is that there are better performing, better looking and above all cheaper cars on the market, so get over it, Porsche is overrated.

So yes, I reckon my car would cope just fine on a track day, and in the end you'd still be driving a butt ugly car ;)

Sternjaeger II 08-19-2011 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rattlehead (Post 325008)
Well, German cars have soul but nothing like Italian cars I agree. I actually have a lot of time for Alfas...when I was a teen my mother owned three in succession and a family friend of ours is a lifelong Alfa fan, so I do understand what they're all about. I was just tweaking your nose a little. :-P

there's something about Alfa that you can't really explain unless you owned one: there's a sense of happening, a spirit that is unrivalled.

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I would love a '65 Mustang! To me, there is very little to beat the sound of an American V8, either small block or big block. I just love 'em. I once tried restoring a '68 Camaro, but I lost the energy, time, money and patience to see it through.

One day, money permitting, I'd love to try and restore another muscle car. But we'll see.
yeah, it's a great car, but then again, it's a motoring statement more than a performer, and man it drinks like a fish..

TomcatViP 08-19-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rattlehead (Post 325114)
Well I just ordered Bullit and Vanishing Point, and threw in The Great Escape as a bonus. :cool: I haven't seen that one in many years.

Seems we will not see you on any server for a couple of days ;-) . You'd better ask the wife to keep the remote with her to prevent you from abusing the <replay> button (on the remote).

TomcatViP 08-19-2011 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 325120)
there's something about Alfa that you can't really explain unless you owned one: there's a sense of happening, a spirit that is unrivalled.

IMHO I think any diesel powered private cars is an absurdity. And really I know what I mean. But Alpha are great cars and nervous enough for European roads although I found by experience that the quoted 265hp does not seems to help the car to lift off that much.

Here is quick comparison btw an old Eu model and the new Breda (3.2/260) http://www.zeperfs.com/duel2555-339.htm

Hve a look at the Power per weight value and the accel value even if the table quote a coupe vs a 5 door saloon . You can have such a Saab for 3k€ on the used market. I have ever wondered what has happened to Saab that their model were so poorly low rated by the press Automag (that lead us to the TopGear discussion)

Oh the fittings and interior are comparable that's why I choose this contender for the test.

But for sure the Alpha are more sexy ;-)

Sternjaeger II 08-19-2011 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TomcatViP (Post 325153)
IMHO I think any diesel powered private cars is an absurdity. And really I know what I mean. But Alpha are great cars and nervous enough for European roads although I found by experience that the quoted 265hp does not seems to help the car to lift off that much.

Here is quick comparison btw an old Eu model and the new Breda (3.2/260) http://www.zeperfs.com/duel2555-339.htm

Hve a look at the Power per weight value and the accel value even if the table quote a coupe vs a 5 door saloon . You can have such a Saab for 3k€ on the used market. I have ever wondered what has happened to Saab that their model were so poorly low rated by the press Automag (that lead us to the TopGear discussion)

Oh the fittings and interior are comparable that's why I choose this contender for the test.

But for sure the Alpha are more sexy ;-)

that chart is somehow wrong, the stock 3.2 V6 does 0-100km in 6.5 secs, not 8secs.

Diesel can be an absurdity here in the UK where it's more expensive than petrol, but diesel engines are way more reliable than petrol ones and require less maintenance. A Euro5 diesel causes less pollution than petrol, and the consumptions are way better. I average 36mpg on my big engine, which is unrivalled.

TomcatViP 08-19-2011 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 325175)
that chart is somehow wrong, the stock 3.2 V6 does 0-100km in 6.5 secs, not 8secs.

Diesel can be an absurdity here in the UK where it's more expensive than petrol, but diesel engines are way more reliable than petrol ones and require less maintenance. A Euro5 diesel causes less pollution than petrol, and the consumptions are way better. I average 36mpg on my big engine, which is unrivalled.

The prob is not in carbon consumption or with the price of a gallon but with particles and Nox emission witch directly arms ppl and degrade the ozone layer. This is a well known fact since 1996/2001 era. There is nothing you can do against it unless keeping optimizing the regime what is not compatible with a private car that constantly revs up or down.

Regarding the spec stated, this website choose to quote only the low range of perf stated in the press. The Saab is also faster (at least the coupe as I knew it) with a perf in the 6sec range for 0 to 60mph.

Sternjaeger II 08-19-2011 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TomcatViP (Post 325183)
The prob is not in carbon consumption or with the price of a gallon but with particles and Nox emission witch directly arms ppl and degrade the ozone layer. This is a well known fact since 1996/2001 era. There is nothing you can do against it unless keeping optimizing the regime what is not compatible with a private car that constantly revs up or down.

Regarding the spec stated, this website choose to quote only the low range of perf stated in the press. The Saab is also faster (at least the coupe as I knew it) with a perf in the 6sec range for 0 to 60mph.

ah ok, it was a bit deceiving cos it mentioned the 3.2 engine :-)

Is the Saab RWD?

TomcatViP 08-20-2011 02:06 AM

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@baronWastelan : the car looks great ! Is that a stock intake under the front bumper?

baronWastelan 08-20-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TomcatViP (Post 325410)
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@baronWastelan : the car looks great ! Is that a stock intake under the front bumper?

Thank you, yes everything you see on the car (base Carrera) is as it was built in 1996 (MY97), except the ride height was lowered to European RS spec when I had the M030 sport suspension package installed. Also the previous owner had the windows tinted and I added the transponder on the windscreen :-P

OK one other thing I changed was I painted the black headlight washers silver with some silver touch-up paint from the corner auto parts store. :grin:


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