Originally Posted by Formula88 (Post 282672)

Are you totally oblivious to what has gon on in the world since 1945? Everytime some country needs help with something they ask the U.S. for assistance, and 9/10 times we do help. Though god knows why since it wholly unappreciated by those that receive it and I think we should just go back the the pre-WW2 philosophy of non-involvement in other countries affairs so long as it isnt something that will screw us.

As for your 9/11 comment, really?:rolleyes: Do you really think we needed help with this? Look at it this way, we get involved in all your major wars and when a small incident happens in the U.S. we figure "What the hell, might as well call the Brits and cash in a few favors." I'm sure the 5 troops you guys sent us will be a big help, I mean how could we fight terror without them? (The war on terror is a joke, but what can you do?) Exactly what have any of the UK forces done to help in Afghanistan? Oh right, you brought us tea! Thanks chaps! The Canadians were more help, they make good target practice for our F-18s, send more of them if you can.

Its always mentioned by someone who has no idea about the history of American involvement in Europe between 43-45 that our help wasnt really needed. Perhaps the war could have still been won without American assistance, though in the Pacific I'm quite sure Austrailia would be speaking Japanese about now, but think how much more it would have cost those involved. When Britain gave up on daylight bombing raids and resorted to terror bombing German cities at night (a tactic that did little if anything in helping to win the war) the U.S. 8th airforce stepped up and continued to precision bomb German factories and installations despite heavy casualties.
How many Russian and British lives were spared by these raids that stopped production of warmachines and armaments that would otherwise have made it to the fronts?

I'll leave it at that I suppose, this isnt a conversation/argument that anyone is going to win, just having a bit of fun with it. Please remember to keep your responses coherent and add to the debate.;)

Originally Posted by W0ef (Post 282682)

Wasn't the only reason the US decided to jump into WWII the fact those Japs bombed Pearl Harbour? Don't get any high fetched ideas about American idealism back in those days. Most americans didn't give too much of a crap about the rest of the world, like now, but yeah, they got messed with.

That joke about Canadians making good target practice is borderline sick by the way.

Oh, I'm grateful you guys did jump in in the end. But both American involvement and the later Marshall help were mainly done out of self interest (had to create a buffer against em nasty commies)