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TonyD 02-01-2012 05:17 PM

The ‘blue stripes’ are the apparent result of a compatibility issue between the current graphics engine and ‘Cayman’ gpu’s, which include the HD6950, HD6970 and dual HD6990. Only these gpu’s utilise the VLIW4 architecture, all others prior to the new HD7XXX cards use VLIW5. The issue was ‘fixed’ by 1c previously, but reintroduced with the last update. I had communicated with AMD extensively the first time around without any success, but as others have intimated, it would make little sense for them to provide a solution at this stage.

I also find them sufficiently irritating to warrant not having flown Clod since their re-appearance, and hope like hell that the planned graphics engine update resolves the issue (along with the myriad of other less annoying ones) :)

speculum jockey 02-01-2012 09:55 PM

Another thing to consider is the market share of this Sim and that ATI has in High-End Computer gaming. This is a nice product, in a niche genre, on a niche platform. From a business point of view it wouldn't be worth ATI's time to do anything to resolve this issues since this game is less than a drop in the bucket and is only affected by on line of their products (69XX cards).

Now if there was a problem with Battlefield III, World of Warcraft, Fallout3/Skyrim or any other A+++ title, you could bet your house that they would make any issue a top priority. Considering the alleged poor sales of this game, they probably wouldn't even recoup their losses in assigning someone to fix the issue even if a new graphics engine wasn't on the way.

In short, why bother when it really doesn't benefit you? Even if Clod sales were two or three times what they were, it's hard to say if they'd deem it necessary to fix. It's all about the $'s with these people, because that's what they're in the business for.

Flanker35M 02-02-2012 08:34 AM

S!

Part of the truth Speculum Jockey. But also the devs need to be in contact with the brand, keep them informed and co-operate. It is a fact that AMD or nVidia are not the ones that should beg for info, devs have to provide it and establish communication for best results.

addman 02-02-2012 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speculum jockey (Post 387064)
Another thing to consider is the market share of this Sim and that ATI has in High-End Computer gaming. This is a nice product, in a niche genre, on a niche platform. From a business point of view it wouldn't be worth ATI's time to do anything to resolve this issues since this game is less than a drop in the bucket and is only affected by on line of their products (69XX cards).

Now if there was a problem with Battlefield III, World of Warcraft, Fallout3/Skyrim or any other A+++ title, you could bet your house that they would make any issue a top priority. Considering the alleged poor sales of this game, they probably wouldn't even recoup their losses in assigning someone to fix the issue even if a new graphics engine wasn't on the way.

In short, why bother when it really doesn't benefit you? Even if Clod sales were two or three times what they were, it's hard to say if they'd deem it necessary to fix. It's all about the $'s with these people, because that's what they're in the business for.

This is the fact of the matter.

speculum jockey 02-02-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Flanker35M (Post 387148)
S!

Part of the truth Speculum Jockey. But also the devs need to be in contact with the brand, keep them informed and co-operate. It is a fact that AMD or nVidia are not the ones that should beg for info, devs have to provide it and establish communication for best results.

They could be sending volumes of data to AMD/Nvidia every hour on the hour, but if their sales are not up to snuff, they won't lift a finger to address them.

Flanker35M 02-02-2012 05:59 PM

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Well at least the driver teams would KNOW how the GFX engine works. It took AMD 10 years to fix original IL-2 issues, but they did it even IL-2 is not an AAA game ;) And now the situation for AMD and nVidia is the same, the game uses DirectX. Sure oversimplifying it but the DirectX is the same for both, Microsoft does not favor neither brand..:)

5./JG27.Farber 02-02-2012 06:48 PM

Not going to read through 4 pages but:

I had blue stripe, brown stripe even red stripe issue with cliffs of dover then other games, it turned out my graphics driver was corrupted... I reinstalled the drivers - which now auto update... I have never had the problem since.

Hope this helps. :-P


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