Except this article. Luthier even confirms it later in the thread. He also says it is a temporary fix, and as soon as they are able to smooth out the offending features to be complaint the filter will be removed. Which means? We will get frame rates back. but there will likely be a negligible drop in visual fidelity. In the end I think virtually no one would be able to say what has been made epileptic friendly and what hasn't. I also seem to recall them saying they expect to have a fix within days or short weeks.

Does it suck that it was released with this "feature" that is causing such problems? Yes. Will it always be this way? No. Should we keep beating this dead horse? No, unless it doesn't get fixed, but then we'd still be beating a dead horse; which, hopefully most of you understand, accomplishes nothing.

Edit: WTH? Tree you even posted several replies in that thread....Are you telling me you either ignored or completely discounted the article in the OP?!

Talk it to death...

No way anyone is going to change a darn thing about BOB COD.

Constructive, sensible explanations will aide developers to get it what you think is right.

Rants, whines and complaints won't even be read.

Pick your poison, you might actually be someone competent enough to share some viable information that might help developers.

Then if you only complain... "who cares what you think" is generally the attitude of persons reading your postings.

Not saying the developers didn't expect this kind of barrage of rants, whines and complaints. Oleg has often expressed his disdain for all the non-constructive junk people say. Recently, there were postings where he expressed such disdain, and mentioned quitting.

I can tell you this much... You don't want Oleg to quit, because your future with competent air combat simulation will be over, over, over. ---

LOL! When you buy eggs, you want them to print on the shell "this chicken is unfinished"? :D Come on, you can't be serious ...

Because apparently they had already ran out of money by November. If you dig a bit deeper in the forum and search previous posts, it was Oleg's own words saying that's why they wanted to release back then, further delays would make the project financially non-viable.



Now why do you have to go all reasonable on everyone and spoil the fun :-P
In all seriousness, this is my assessment as well:

1) It has issues while it's still great in some things. The single main issue is that it's inconsistent and unstable a lot of times. Yes, it needs work, possibly lots of it. No, the basic premise doesn't suck at all.
All this game needs to do in order to start rolling properly is to pull a consistent 30 FPS at the specs quoted by its system requirements (at low to medium settings for the minimum specs and medium to high for the recommended ones), nothing more since the gameplay features will cover the rest of the ground, nothing less since anything below 25 FPS can be unplayable.

2) There's too many people who won't take no for an answer and can't cope with others having a different opinion. Half the people are in panic mode and the other half in denial. A substantial part is also changing from one mode to the other depending on whatever snippet of out-of-context information they receive.

I'm going to be honest with you, if this wasn't somewhat getting to me and slightly swaying my mood back and forth too (something which is not easy to do in general, it's actually a feat to get me worried about something like this) i'd be laughing all day long over the madness of it all, instead of only intermittently like i do now :-P



Actually, even footage with the filter enabled clearly shows effects like tracers, prop discs (not from all angles though and without the sun reflection when viewed head on), muzzle flashes and exhaust flames. Which leads me to believe that when they rework the effects it won't be a case of "omg, where's my fancy flashes?", they will probably make effect work on a lower contrast and that will be it.

I think i know what they meant when they said the game went off the scale in the epilepsy testing due to the effects used. Watch how the cockpit starts flashing like a Xmas tree when the guns are fired in one of the early videos here, just jump to the 20 second mark and watch the reflections on the canopy framing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4Fx3pHQFHk

To be honest, if it's that kind of stuff that will get edited out i have no problem. It's minor and to be honest, after i noticed it it's so easy to focus on that it would not let me concentrate properly on flying the airplane. It might be realistic, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be detrimental to my ability to play the game for a long period of time even if i didn't get epileptic seizures. I'm surprised i didn't notice it earlier, this is a very well done effect and i guess it's realistic, but it can also give you a very nice headache after a few hours of gameplay :-P

So, if it's stuff like that they are toning down i have no problem with it. In fact, in almost every player submitted video i've seen the rest of the effects are there, from tracers to rounds impacting on the target, engine fires, everything.

Finally, in a few months there will be an SDK released so that we can make mods for the game. If someone wants to, they can probably uninstall and reinstall their Russian version, not patch it, extract the original effects and offer them as a 3rd party mod: we can get all the seizure-inducing effects we want and the developer studio will not be liable for any kind of damages, problem solved.

LOL, there's no logic in what you say, you know ;-)


When I want to buy an egg, I buy an egg.

If I buy a chicken, and get the egg instead... well, that's where the problem is.

So I say they could at least state clearly before delivering the egg: 'this chicken is unfinished', so ppl wouldn't think they're buying chickens.

LOL, that was funny, made me laugh (not in a piss taking way, just funny):grin:

People have every right to be disappointed, i've got the russian version and its a mess.

Yea its not the version we would have got in the uk, but i cant see that being any better. And remember that comes with the permanent filter, so it can only be worse.

The problem is that most of those saying how bad the game is have never tried it. They're jumoing to conclusions based on a youtube clip, without knowing how that PC was setup, whether they had the latest patch, whether there's a new patch on the way, etc. According to Ilya there are problems, but we don't officially know what's happening yet, and remember, it hasn't actually been released here yet.

Seconded. I imagine they must be well stressed at the moment. IL2 is my favoruite game of all time, and I consider it quite important to me that CoD lives up to the development teams ambitions - but I imagine it means even more to the team that have spent 6 years (or 4 or whatever it is) of their lives developing it. So good luck team.

No, Just no. This is what the whole thread is about. Misinformation. Luthier said the filter is a temporary fix. It is just there until they get the issues that could cause an epileptic episode fixed. Read the articles that are linked. Don't just listen to the woe is me mouth breathing tinfoil hat crowd. I posted the link and that explanation just like 6 posts up.

Er, but he has quit hasn't he? He's already started doing less with the team, and is due to leave completely soon. I haven't just made that up?