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Mustang 12-30-2010 08:28 PM

About to Tecnical advantage

Tecnical advantage.... ???




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Ernst 12-30-2010 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwiatek (Post 208198)
Try negative G :)

I tested. I could not "crank" the spitfire in negative G and I tried a lot. In fact i could not experience more than -2.0G in the Spitfire. The Focke Wulf is relatively easy to "crank" in negative Gs.

The Focke Wulf broke at -3.8G~-4.0G. I could not anchieve more than -2.0G in the spitfire, maybe if i trim the spitifire negative i ll. I ll try later. In principle appears to me that spitfire has much better G endurance in 4.10. Why? Ask TD.

I did not tested other aircraft, but i guess that i ll have much more surprises. Kwiatek, what you expected to me observe while trying negative g's?

Ernst 12-30-2010 08:33 PM

Certainly "was not" technical advantage, Mustang.

Mustang 12-30-2010 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ernst (Post 208195)
I performed a G endurance test just a time ago. Flying the 190 i heard the "crank" at 8.5 G while the spitfire i heard at 9.7 G. Spits have more G endurance than Focke Wulf! I will say nothing, i am a bit used. As always... :evil:




:rolleyes:


LOL


SEE 3m 30s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFl8X...ayer_embedded#!


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Ernst 12-30-2010 08:42 PM

Yes, Mustang. The allies won the war. They have to win in IL2 too, always. Spitfire is the perfect project, no compromisses. :rolleyes:

TheGrunch 12-30-2010 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ernst (Post 208206)
Yes, Mustang. The allies won the war. They have to win in IL2 too, always. Spitfire is the perfect project, no compromisses. :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ernst (Post 208202)
The Focke Wulf broke at -3.8G~-4.0G. I could not anchieve more than -2.0G in the spitfire, maybe if i trim the spitifire negative i ll. I ll try later. In principle appears to me that spitfire has much better G endurance in 4.10. Why? Ask TD.

You just said that the Spitfire could pull fewer negative Gs. This probably has a lot to do with lower average speed and the nose-up trim tendency of the Spitfire. What has that got to do with G endurance? If you could get the Spit to pull 3-4 negative Gs it would break as well. All it means is that an FW-190 can escape more easily in a bunt as long as the pilot is careful. That make sense?

Ernst 12-30-2010 09:10 PM

Ok. But how about the positive g's? Check the messages before this one. However i do not tried to trim the Spitfire to verify if it can go to more negative G's yet. Appears it had some positive trim on take off/start.

TheGrunch 12-30-2010 09:12 PM

Dunno, didn't read that far back, haha. Does sound odd, but it doesn't mean it is wrong in principle. I don't know what either aircraft was stressed to achieve off the top of my head.

TheGrunch 12-30-2010 09:19 PM

Have a read through this, Ernst. EDIT: In fact you posted in that thread, you've probably read it all already.

Ernst 12-30-2010 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGrunch (Post 208215)
Dunno, didn't read that far back, haha. Does sound odd, but it doesn't mean it is wrong in principle. I don't know what either aircraft was stressed to achieve off the top of my head.

I just tried the negative g's because Kwiatek asked me for. Certainly he asked because he wanted that i observe something myself. But he do not come back to explain what.


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