these reviews that you all read are completely worthless to real world use.. what the reviews SHOULD DO is see how high settings they can get with each graphics card at 60FPS.. not force the mid range cards to choke on high settings and let the high ends win easily, if you lowered the aa and af for the 5770 it would be keeping up with the high ends on high aa and af, thats real world performance what you loose with a 5770 isnt frames as that review would have you believe, what you loose is graphics detail, 5770 can run any game out today at 60fps, just have to set graphics settings down a little

i will say that a 460 is one of the best cards out thier tohugh especially within price performance, but it does cost alot more than 5770, some cant afford that, what the 460 does do well is smacks the 5830 like a red headed stepchild

Are you sure 5 subsequent posts are enough? Maybe you want to add another 3 or so?
Are you confused or drunk?
The latter is an excuse I would accept. :D

Thx Mr.Charming, see above.

No shit? The only thing I care about when buying a new card is it's performance with high AA + AF settings - and details.
Why not stick with the integrated GPU? ;)

Late model GTX260 OC, done.[*]
Happy?
Plus: The 260 performs better in IL2, and nobody knows who much longer we have to play it.

Matters, lots...

Who's forcing you to buy Green Power?


1st: You can them for less than $200.
2nd: Yes, it has DX11 - but on the other hand it's incapable of delivering decent fps. No sure if that really is an advantage.
3rd: Does it have potential, like you save money now, and when you need it, you can add a 2nd one? Not really unless you got triple.

Conclusion:
I would never recommend buying a new 260 over of the 5770. But if you don't have the bucks for a 460(or above), you'll be better off getting used one[*] for the time being.
Or save the $ for the intel CPU and instead, get a decent GPU. ;)



OT:
Those tests exist. Sure, I'd love to see how a MarsII does vs Ares, but just for entertainment.
Those results are of zero importance for the average user.
This test here shows you what you can achieve with less money spent.

ohh reallllly? i guess your refering to 768 mb.. which is also an amazing card, but at higher resolutions its almost neck and neck with the 5770, however if your gaming 1600 x 1000 and under it should do alot better

yeah everyone always talks like their only option is sli or crossfire for upgrade... i went from 5770 to 5870 to 5870 2gb.. each time i just put my card on amazon or ebay, and i sold the old one for either more or only a few percent less because i keep the boxes and receipts and take very good care of the cards, and have excellent feedback... if your short on cash.. you could get a 5770.. then when you have enough money get a 5870.. or 6870.. or nvidia whatever.. you will most likely get at least 120-130 for selling the 5770 so you will only be down 20-30 bucks.. its a great holdover card if your planing on future upgrades

personally i would never do sli or crossfire even though i could.. id rather just sell the old card and buy the next best single core card.. i hate dealing with the hassel of two cards

yes it does matter lots to alot of people with older systems, crap power supplies, and thier system is alredy near its watt limit not to mention that you can oc it alot with just a little juice.. now if you have a 850 watt PSU like me its not an issue, also my room is hot as balls, i have three computers in here, 2 are OC, i have a 1200 wtt sound system and alot of other electronics, theres thousands of wats burning in my room and yes the electricity doesnt cost alot but the AC that i have to run to keep my room cool sure does.. less heat is nicer at least in the south, maybe in Norway it will be a benefit, free heating?

Late model GTX260 OC, done.[*]
Happy?

not really comparing used card to new is kinda cheap and also not dx11, not that its a huge deal, but if your using it on a smallish screen say 1280 then yeah the DX11 will be really handy as the 5770 will be maxing the settings, buying used cards is great, just have to be careful where you buy from, however alot of people dont like getting used

drunk yes i am drunk becasue i run my business from home and im allowed to drink at work cause im da boss, ok is this enough i think its more than 3

He's building a NEW system.

With a 550w PSU he can run even the big ass cards, unless he adds all kinds of fancy stuff.
550w, probably not enough to heat(up) a room.
Considering your 850 PSU - what is the setup and did you ever check actual consumption?

working drunk is the fast lane to success. ;)
Maybe you should try to split that.

yep your right in fact with his system i already recommended a more powerful card, but it seems this troll fight had fell of a cliff in mordor and gotten into an unrelated Nvidia vs ATI fanboi screech match, which i clearly won