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rebel357 01-20-2011 04:08 PM

The H75 and H81 which is the P40 variant France recieved has been modeled in another sim for quite a long time. WWW.Battlegroundeurope.com


here is the H75

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/5/...fr_hawk_75.jpg

and the H81

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/8/...fr_hawk_81.jpg

They also modeled the Dewotine D520

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/c/c3/Ac_fr_d-520.jpg

The H87 which is a P40E with 6 fifty cals

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/d/d1/H87.jpg

and the P38 Lightening the French ordered as a P322 which has been modeled with counter rotating props.

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/1/13/Ac_fr_p-38f.jpg

Ive played this game for 10 years its been out and I am looking forward to playing this new game as well.

Cheers
Reb

zapatista 01-20-2011 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krz9000 (Post 214336)
that trailer was quite underwhelming :( still the camera has no human shake or momentum. 80% of the footage is above water...and the time we see land its middle to high altitude. ..and how come they create a trailer that shows the game to the global public on a shitty machine that is not able to apply anti-aliasing?

because is not actually finished of course you whiner !!

your also right now only seeing the first of many trailers, and quality will rapidly improve in them the closer to release date we get. the good news about this announcement and trailer release is that oleg and ubi is now committed to a specific release date and the project is in its final stage with a fixed deadline (but the final build has not gone "gold"). they still have a month or 2 to squeeze more performance out of their final build, and low altitude scenery quality will be the final proof of the pudding. pressing the cd's for final shipping and packing them into the finished boxes takes a week at max

we have been waiting for months for a final product to be released, and all you can do is complain when we get it ?

brando 01-20-2011 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krz9000 (Post 214336)
that trailer was quite underwhelming :( still the camera has no human shake or momentum. 80% of the footage is above water...and the time we see land its middle to high altitude. ..and how come they create a trailer that shows the game to the global public on a shitty machine that is not able to apply anti-aliasing? next thing that comes to mind is again the idiotic focus on canned mission design...WTF?!?!?! only a few simheads what to play historic missions with almost no replay value. what would have mattered is that they create a game...as in a dynamic mission creation system like in falcon4 where you as a player fell like you achieve something,....to ignore this important feature is just idiotic. a least there is hope that external tools will build that...but how many casual gamers will invest their time to figure out how a mod works (most mods i know dont really care about intuitive guis and so on).

i will buy this game anyway but i fear that its the same stale gameplay experience like il2. and guys...simulations and gameplay do not contradict themself.

It's hard to see how you will enjoy the game with that attitude. You say that you play IL-2 and yet you don't seem to have found any of the thousands of player-created missions and campaigns that are available, or joined any on-line scenarios and teamed up with other pilots.
Anyone can tell you that advertising sucks anyway. Using a five-bladed razor and wearing Lynx deodorant doesn't mean your going to get front seat in a wet T-shirt contest or get laid - but if you can wear a smile too you might just stand a chance. ;)

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rebel357 01-20-2011 04:23 PM

Heres a trailer if you havent seen or herd of this game :)

[youtube]xjcAFjniM1s&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

zauii 01-20-2011 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 214344)
because is not actually finished of course, you silly whining child !!

your also right now only seeing the first of many trailers, and quality will rapidly improve in them the closer to release date we get. the good news about this announcement and trailer release is that oleg and ubi is now committed to a specific release date and the project is in its final stage with a fixed deadline (but the final build has not gone "gold")

they still have a month or 2 to squeeze more performance out of their final build, and low altitude scenery quality will be the final proof of the pudding. pressing the cd's for final shipping and packing them into the finished boxes takes a week at max

Agree with Zap here, altho i'd say one month then it must be pretty much set for production. But as he says people shouldn't whine to much about the trailer, this is the first trailer, maybe folks should chill and realize that there's still two months left until release and we will get system requirements and more as the progress goes along. Historical battles are of great value as well, many prefer them and not everyone mods or creates missions, the game needs to show what it is @ stock.

Cheers

addman 01-20-2011 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krz9000 (Post 214336)
i will buy this game anyway but i fear that its the same stale gameplay experience like il2. and guys...simulations and gameplay do not contradict themself.

This I actually agree with, I hope Oleg and team have improved the game aspect of this sim. Gameplay and realism -as above mentioned- CAN go hand in hand. I really love IL-2 always have but only for certain periods of time since it all gets pretty old after a while. Everything from the campaign generator to the interface in IL-2 feels very archaic. There's is no replay value either since it's so predictable especially if you create your own missions -which I do a lot-. Anywho, I'm sure these aspects have been greatly improved in CoD.:)

Mad G 01-20-2011 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirq (Post 214323)


Oh!, thanks for the link, but I can´t speak polish!

Best,

ElAurens 01-20-2011 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebel357 (Post 214342)
The H75 and H81 which is the P40 variant France recieved has been modeled in another sim for quite a long time. WWW.Battlegroundeurope.com


here is the H75

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/5/...fr_hawk_75.jpg

and the H81

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/8/...fr_hawk_81.jpg

They also modeled the Dewotine D520

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/c/c3/Ac_fr_d-520.jpg

The H87 which is a P40E with 6 fifty cals

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/d/d1/H87.jpg

and the P38 Lightening the French ordered as a P322 which has been modeled with counter rotating props.

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/1/13/Ac_fr_p-38f.jpg

Ive played this game for 10 years its been out and I am looking forward to playing this new game as well.

Cheers
Reb

France never recieved the P40s that were ordered from Curtiss.

The Hawk 75 is already an AI in IL2/46.

And that P 40 model is even worse than the Hawk 87 we currently have.

rebel357 01-20-2011 06:13 PM

The RATS over at CRS are currently replacing all the older air models with new ones. They have about 5 of them completed, they are in the middle of an Infantry 3rd person redo and thats taking up most of the Artist time. The Game is not based on the BOB its the BOF and in the game France does not roll over and DIE like in Real life. Thus they get the planes they ordered and I get to fly them.

steven197106 01-21-2011 12:30 AM

Will it be available to buy from? steam


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