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Continu0 06-09-2013 07:05 PM

No olegg there to take your money... he has been out of busines for long now...

Wolf_Rider 06-12-2013 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by vranac (Post 504489)

That looks pretty dull when compared with original cockpits.

yet there is an (comparing weathering) uncanny similarity between both 'pits

zapatista 06-12-2013 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sokol1 (Post 504448)
Well, 777/1c.......... its initial proposal is just a new version of IL-2 (2001 - not 1946), with graphics, FM and DM updated.

Sokol1

where did you get that from ? (asking, not being critical)

from all that i have seen RoF's BS it simply going to be the old RoF using a new map, and a few new ww2 planes added. they will try and expand their RoF dx9 engine with a few visual tricks, but essentially their gfx engine is obsolete before they even start (which is particularly problematic in its limitations to produce complex flight models).

for 777 there is no use or access to any of the old il2 FM, DM, graphics, object models etc

it will only "look like il2" in that it will be located in a russian scenery and has some soviet ww2 era aircraft, it has nothing else in common afaik

Continu0 06-12-2013 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 504626)
where did you get that from ? (asking, not being critical)

from all that i have seen RoF's BS it simply going to be the old RoF using a new map, and a few new ww2 planes added. they will try and expand their RoF dx9 engine with a few visual tricks, but essentially their gfx engine is obsolete before they even start (which is particularly problematic in its limitations to produce complex flight models).

for 777 there is no use or access to any of the old il2 FM, DM, graphics, object models etc

it will only "look like il2" in that it will be located in a russian scenery and has some soviet ww2 era aircraft, it has nothing else in common afaik

I really think they are going a little further than that... afaik they raise the polygone-count, so it won`t just be a re-painted RoF... Sure the basic are the same, but...

I am really critical because I hated to see the CloD-Engine being canned, but what we saw from BoS so far at least raises some hope.

Time will tell... and until then we have Team Fusion who saves CloD!

Sokol1 06-21-2013 01:59 PM

It's not time to create a dedicate forum to il2:Bos (at last avoid some "ego" wars :) )?

Online flight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwrPU-xW2-8&

Sokol1

Osprey 06-22-2013 11:23 AM

Makes me sick.

startrekmike 06-22-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 504626)
where did you get that from ? (asking, not being critical)

from all that i have seen RoF's BS it simply going to be the old RoF using a new map, and a few new ww2 planes added. they will try and expand their RoF dx9 engine with a few visual tricks, but essentially their gfx engine is obsolete before they even start (which is particularly problematic in its limitations to produce complex flight models).

for 777 there is no use or access to any of the old il2 FM, DM, graphics, object models etc

it will only "look like il2" in that it will be located in a russian scenery and has some soviet ww2 era aircraft, it has nothing else in common afaik

We have not seen much at all of this sim beyond a few screenshots and a couple of videos, beyond that, we have developer posts on the BoS forum that tackle questions but all in all, NONE of us has really seen this sim in action.

With that being said, the more posts the dev's make about their work on the project, the more it seems that it actually wont be a WWII reskin of ROF.

You seem all too eager to put your fingers in your ears and cover your eyes and pretend (no matter the proof otherwise) that your opinion of this sim is going to be fact, I don't know why you harbor such seething anger against it but you do.

I suppose now is the part where someone reports me to the moderators for advertising a 777 product but nobody here would do that...right?:rolleyes:

SlipBall 06-22-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by startrekmike (Post 505388)
We have not seen much at all of this sim beyond a few screenshots and a couple of videos, beyond that, we have developer posts on the BoS forum that tackle questions but all in all, NONE of us has really seen this sim in action.

With that being said, the more posts the dev's make about their work on the project, the more it seems that it actually wont be a WWII reskin of ROF.

You seem all too eager to put your fingers in your ears and cover your eyes and pretend (no matter the proof otherwise) that your opinion of this sim is going to be fact, I don't know why you harbor such seething anger against it but you do.

I suppose now is the part where someone reports me to the moderators for advertising a 777 product but nobody here would do that...right?:rolleyes:


You need to chill a bit Mike...you seem too close to the project, makes you overly sensitive :)

arthursmedley 06-22-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Osprey (Post 505368)

Makes me sick.

Why Osprey?

Sokol1 06-22-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 504626)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sokol1 View Post
Well, 777/1c.......... its initial proposal is just a new version of IL-2 (2001 - not 1946), with graphics, FM and DM updated.

Sokol1
where did you get that from ? (asking, not being critical)

from all that i have seen RoF's BS it simply going to be the old RoF using a new map, and a few new ww2 planes added. they will try and expand their RoF dx9 engine with a few visual tricks, but essentially their gfx engine is obsolete before they even start (which is particularly problematic in its limitations to produce complex flight models).

for 777 there is no use or access to any of the old il2 FM, DM, graphics, object models etc

it will only "look like il2" in that it will be located in a russian scenery and has some soviet ww2 era aircraft, it has nothing else in common afaik

This was stated by dev's in il2:BoS in many topics, but this current one resume well:

Quote:

Zak
Community manager
1CGS

Posted 20 June 2013 - 05:55

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Yastreb, on 20 Jun 2013 - 05:28, said:

I have one and simple question for developers.

Will BoS surpass old IL-2 with patches in all aspects except number of flyable planes and maps?

If BoS can deliver this I would be pretty sure It will surpass old IL-2 in all features sooner or later.


Yes, it will. To be exact:

Level of physics (FM, DM, worlds' conditions simulation)

Graphics

Stalingrad photorealistic design

AI based on the fifth-generation jet fighter AI

Unprecedented singleplayer experience

And all the rest :happy:

Speaking of multiplayer features, we know how and we're ready to surpass all official and fan-made multiplayer mods ever known. Will we do it or this features will be limited to classic RoF-style battles - depends on game's success on pre-order stage, on virtual players' themselves.


Notice, they refer to original il-2, not to il-2 CloD - at any time they promised exceed CloD level.

Another thing important to notice, in any time they don't promised that il-2:BoS will have the SAME "coop" style of il-2 (that's mean launch by Hyperlobby, chat, statistics, etc, blablabla...).

(IMO) It's a bad move - from "UBIZ00 old crow" perspective - they use the "Il-2 Sturmovik" brand, better if some "777/1c World War II: Battle of Stalingrad" or something... [/B]but this brand (il2) sold in Russian market, and the guys there don't mind so much about "coop's", just only dogfight's, it's like a (virtual) "national sport". :)

PS- "photorealistic" dont mean use Satelite map images, but something like "Oleg's photorealistic". :)

Sokol1


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