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OldBuzzard 01-01-2008 01:36 AM

I'll have to disagree with Oleg killing CFS3. The M$ 'bean counters' killed CFS3 by forcing it's release before the developers were finished with it. Buggy online code was the worst, and without a decent 'online experience' it was doomed to failure. As for the physics engine, FM and DM modeling, it's still ahead of IL2. The AVHISTORY guys have made FM/DM models that will make you throw rocks at what "The Great and Mighty" Oleg has put into IL2.

Yes, IL2 does do some things better that CFS3 did, but, if CFS3 would have been at the same level of development as CFS1 was when it was released, IL2 would have just been a footnote in the history of combat flight sims.

LEXX 01-01-2008 02:32 AM

...and Microsoft not supporting it after one patch, abandoning the product. So Microsoft killed its own sim, and Oleg was there to take up the slack. Sounds like a two man hit job.

Bearcat 01-01-2008 06:02 AM

MS killed CFS3..... I waited with great anticipation for CFS3... I got IL2 in the interim.. since I had upgrade my rig expressly for CFS3... but when it came out it was terrible. Absolutely terrible. Worse than CFS1 even. For me IL2 was everything that CFS3 was not.. and it was a no brainer. If OM had the resources at his disposal that MS had who knows what he could have done.

-Ox- 01-01-2008 06:33 AM

Exactly right buzzard.

I havn't yet seen the hack track..because it was removed from site.
But i dont think there is a lot of cheating going on with the mod. The new mods are just things to make the game better like 6DOF, and cockpit repaints..

They are against any kind of modification of Flight Model, Damage Model, and weapons.


And i've still yet to see any track where there is hacking.

Its not even that serious, just go to a server that has checkruntime = 2 and you have a mod-safe server.

I still dont see why all these people are crying that the online is trashed or whatever.....where are the tracks to prove that there are FM/DM/Weapon changes?

And yes the 6DOF is really good. Makes for a more realistic flight.

And who really cares that the game is being modded? It really would have happened soon or later.

I wouldn't even think Oleg cared about this game anymore..i mean he IS working on a brand new game, why would he care what happens with his old project? And i seriously think too many people are overreacting on this mod thing. There ARE servers that dont allow the mod..go play there.

HanzBlixz 01-01-2008 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Ox- (Post 33047)
Exactly right buzzard.

I havn't yet seen the hack track..because it was removed from site.
But i dont think there is a lot of cheating going on with the mod. The new mods are just things to make the game better like 6DOF, and cockpit repaints..

They are against any kind of modification of Flight Model, Damage Model, and weapons.

And i've still yet to see any track where there is hacking.

Its not even that serious, just go to a server that has checkruntime = 2 and you have a mod-safe server.

I still dont see why all these people are crying that the online is trashed or whatever.....where are the tracks to prove that there are FM/DM/Weapon changes?

And yes the 6DOF is really good. Makes for a more realistic flight.

And who really cares that the game is being modded? It really would have happened soon or later.

I wouldn't even think Oleg cared about this game anymore..i mean he IS working on a brand new game, why would he care what happens with his old project? And i seriously think too many people are overreacting on this mod thing. There ARE servers that dont allow the mod..go play there.

OX.... To prevent you from choking on your foot any further.

Here are two of the links that you didnt bother to see and they do work.
This first one proves that CRT=2 does not work.
If CRT=2 worked, most players would not have a problem with the sound mod and this thread would be much shorter. (Olegs opinion regarding the legality may differ)
http://rapidshare.com/files/78861110...t_WOE.zip.html

The next set of ntrks shows a weapons mod that is being shared on the web and in your favorite forum along with other mods that provide an unfair advantage in online gaming. http://rapidshare.com/files/79753704...angle.zip.html

The person (and member of your favorite forum) who hacked the weapons has already visited this thread and confirmed he is modding the weapons and will continue to do so, but of course only to make "some rectifications" of Oleg's mistakes. The admins of the servers have confirmed that the ntrks are not fakes.

How widespread these problems are isn't known. However, in a server with 50 people in it, it may only take one bad apple to ruin everyone’s day... not a majority... not a minority... just one.

Most of us have already agreed that an improvement in the checkruntime is needed and we are waiting to see what the 409 server may bring.

Please do not feel bad about your lack of understanding of the subject. A volunteer comes along nearly everyday making similar statements.


YW and Happy New Year.

=PF=Coastie 01-01-2008 09:25 PM

Hanz, Before you choke on your on foot any further. You may want to check the links you posted!

Don't get me wrong, I am also against the modding of this game. I already know that people are using modded weapons online.

Before everyone says "got track?", there is no way you will be able to spot this stuff in a track. It will be too subtle to see in a track. All they have to do is increase hitting power of a gun a little bit to make a HUGE difference. Or, increase the speed of a plane by 10mph.

This is the kind of stuff that will ruin the online game, not the spit with rockets and 108's.

If these folks are smart enough to hack the code, they are smart enough to not make it obvious. Cheaters MUST have the edge because they don't have the natural talent to win fairly. It will always be!

LW_lcarp 01-01-2008 09:39 PM

After asking where the tracks are myself and finally being given the links to them after asking 3 times i got to see the tracks that where made of the hacker. This isnt even close to a weapons hack. This is a down right aimbot. Hes shooting at over 2 Kilometers and getting basically 1 shot kills.

And Hanzblix ive never seen this hack anywhere in the AAA forums so if you could get a link to the hack on that website please post it so you can say I told you so to everyone.

BSS_Sniper 01-01-2008 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LW_lcarp (Post 33120)
After asking where the tracks are myself and finally being given the links to them after asking 3 times i got to see the tracks that where made of the hacker. This isnt even close to a weapons hack. This is a down right aimbot. Hes shooting at over 2 Kilometers and getting basically 1 shot kills.

And Hanzblix ive never seen this hack anywhere in the AAA forums so if you could get a link to the hack on that website please post it so you can say I told you so to everyone.

Page 27 and 30 of this thread.

Uf Josse and LAL Rone I believe are the authors you should look for on the other site. Hope that answers your question.

LW_lcarp 01-01-2008 10:19 PM

I know ive dled and seen them BSS. But like with me asking for the links at that time and when another persons asks for links he gets the same thing I got, and thats being told I havent a clue of what im talking about and need to get a clue.

Some here have taken the Ubizoo mentality to new highs here. Wont be long before Oleg doesnt post here anymore either as he did at the Zoo

Daichidicki 01-01-2008 11:16 PM

Working links are in several places in this thread already.
If some of you had read the thread more carefully, you would have seen these same links that others have used including the two Sniper mentioned above.

I do believe a few of the links that were either in the quotes or copied and pasted to reponses didn’t work due to dropped characters in the paste.

Either way, failure to read carefully is not an excuse for not finding the originally posted links. I'll put the working links here to make it easier for you.
You can go back and read the original posts for the descriptions of the tracks. Those post also include working links.

http://rapidshare.com/files/78861110...t_WOE.zip.html

http://rapidshare.com/files/79753704...angle.zip.html

LW_Carp: It's not an aimbot. Josse hacked the machine guns to be more powerful and then shared the hack with many others including myself through the AAA forum. Did I read that right? You want Hanz to post a link to a weapons hack here??? Are you nuts???

Hanz check email.


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