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SlipBall 07-25-2012 08:21 AM

Yes I know of the board...now lets make it usable :-P

David198502 07-25-2012 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber (Post 447937)
Only on the E1, the others kick like a wild horse.

thats true and its ridiculous as they should be the same...i mean they were the same planes...
though since the last beta, they are all more twitchy now...but i have as well the feeling, that the E1 is the most stable platform.

David198502 07-25-2012 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Osprey (Post 447991)
Not really. There is a target marker just like that one in the fmb but there is no way to raise the 109 tail in order to fire at it. We also do not know if hitting it even makes accurate holes, or any holes.

i have tested it a while back....i have put such a target marker above a airfield...then i made some strafing runs and recorded it....
while you can see the impacts of the rounds on the marker, it will not leave holes in it....

David198502 07-25-2012 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by VO101_Tom (Post 447955)
I think, the 109 is stable enough, you feel the "wild horse" behavior because of the head shake effect, which is too strong imho (your eye and your brain would be a perfect "vibration damper" in RL, which is obviously not simulated here).
The bigger problem is the (programmed) gun inaccuracy. Despite the fact that we can't test it in the original way, clearly see the differences, if you compare these photos and screenshots :rolleyes:
Maybe this is the reason of the weak .303? If the Clod continues the priciple of il-2 DM (the good burst much more valuable, than a many, but separated hits), the gun accuracy is more important, than we thought (couple of cm differencies of the transverse convergence causes huge differences with longitudinal convergence).

How far is it? 100m?
http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO...ng_range_2.jpg

Yep, this is the 100 m sheet. Hmm, some hit out of circle. Scandalous :cool:
http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO...ng_range_3.jpg

Circle? What circle? I doubt we hit even the canvas...
http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO...gun_acc_01.jpg

Suuure... The armourer is squint, or drunk?
http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO...gun_acc_02.jpg

the headshake was there before the last beta patch as well, and didnt mess up the aiming acuracy....now its really hard to aim precisely for more than a snapshot...the controls itself are messed up now...

5./JG27.Farber 07-25-2012 09:09 AM

Yes Tom I agree, the cannons have the accuracy of some kind of joke pineapple launcher. You see it best when you see your team mate shoot in an E4.

VO101_Tom 07-25-2012 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 447988)
It would be very cool to enable some canvas painting in game. Give the canvas the same dm as aircraft with hit markers, and a key assignment to level the aircraft to simulate the jacking up of the rear...okay, so I'm dreaming:-P

Great idea, the future use really would be much better if we can skinning the canvas. But the devs already painted it for the 109 and Spit!
All we need, just a "lifting device", which can set the aircraft leveling on the ground. Three months ago I made a 'feature' ticket in the bugtracker (F#195), 'like it' if you didn't voted yet.

http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO...ng_range_1.jpg

http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO...g_range_1b.jpg

Osprey 07-25-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber (Post 448011)
Yes Tom I agree, the cannons have the accuracy of some kind of joke pineapple launcher. You see it best when you see your team mate shoot in an E4.


lol, I would love to see that. It should be modded!

ATAG_Snapper 07-25-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by VO101_Tom (Post 448048)
Great idea, the future use really would be much better if we can skinning the canvas. But the devs already painted it for the 109 and Spit!
All we need, just a "lifting device", which can set the aircraft leveling on the ground. Three months ago I made a 'feature' ticket in the bugtracker (F#195), 'like it' if you didn't voted yet.

http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO...ng_range_1.jpg

http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO...g_range_1b.jpg

Voted.

SlipBall 07-25-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper (Post 448064)
Voted.


+1...its little things like this that would make the game legendary :)

klem 07-25-2012 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VO101_Tom (Post 448048)
Great idea, the future use really would be much better if we can skinning the canvas. But the devs already painted it for the 109 and Spit!
All we need, just a "lifting device", which can set the aircraft leveling on the ground. Three months ago I made a 'feature' ticket in the bugtracker (F#195), 'like it' if you didn't voted yet.

..............

Ummm.... not sure what use this would be other than to check what the devs have given us in terms of accuracy and dispersion at various ranges. Is that the idea? I don't believe we have any adjustments in the game that will let us alter dispersion of hits or fine adjustment of gun boresight.


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