News from DEDA - http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1934734

Cool!

Thanks for the heads up!

With all this great news, all that's missing is a stirring theme music.

Now here it is!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJtPHlEQ-uU

Awesome, thanks podvoxx!

Can someone clarify a little bit?
They are preparing the information for the announcement? Meaning that it really shouldn´t take so long anymore?

What does this mean?

"As far as I'm concerned, to hold it no one is going, and resolved technical issues."

Обещанного три года ждут
But these words say something about waiting for three years!! Unfortunately I can't speak Russian so well that I could say exactly the true meaning.

Thanks for the update podvoxx, sounds intriguing. Good choice of theme music baron! :) The light at the end of the tunnel is......

And the next words are "but to be serious" if i translate it from russian to german with google.... He could be joking with this 3 years...

As always, I'll go "meh" and wait for the official word, in english, by Luthier & Co, before I even bother THINKING about getting excited.

This is a joke. There is such a thing: "In two weeks'. Next DEDA writes is serious ))

Yes.

Yep, that's really all we can do is wait.

Thank you! Looking forward!

A couple of weeks from November 14 = now. Give it to me.

+1 :-p

It was reported that it would be two weeks, three weeks ago.

Currently I find no news that puts a positive or negative spin on progress, only silence and optimism and pessimism however you read the silence.

Whatever it is, silence certainly isn't Golden!

MP

The only problem is you guys are basing on a rumor 2 weeks ago, there was no promise made by anyone in the dev team...we just keep speculating, and getting upset when the speculation expires, usually in 2 weeks time:-P

thx for the update podvox !!

i believe this could be interpreted as
- "Information on the new simulator is being prepared". = 1C is still working on the "major announcement" (could mean anything, BoM, new MMO, or 2e project), ....but ALL of those are a continuation of the SoW series !
- "As far as I'm concerned, to hold it no one is going, and resolved technical issues".= no major staff changes or layoffs if he is involved (so none have taken place yet, talk of this is rumors about that being a potential issue in the near future ?), they are still working on resolving technical issues of the sim performance and bugs
- "For example, the site should be done" = new website for new flightsim ?
- "Give technical information on replicas from Novosibirsk" = there is an eccentric russian in Novosibirsk who has been building ww2 tank and army vehicle replica's based on original factory specifications and historical documentation he sourced. seems DEDA has contacted him to source some of the technical drawings and original documentation for the SoW flightsim series http://www.odditycentral.com/news/ru...-division.html
- "Study the history of the question and looking for interesting facts"... = study further the time period and ww2 event history of the period the next SoW instalment will cover (? BoM, stalingrad ?), so they can be more accurate in their sim design


all this is good news again, other then the few whiners and trolls here spreading misinformation and getting all the brainless little forum lemmings to collectively jump over the cliff with a herd like behavior stampede, in real life SoW development land all seems well :)

my personal hope is that BoM will still be 1C's next release. it should be very near completion by now and would include further fixes that can be injected into CoD as well (ai behaviour high altitude flight models, weather simulation etc).

+1

Wrong. Deda said about another team from Novosibirsk(Mig-3, Il-2, I-16, I-153, Po-2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aDOz7tvXvk (6 parts with english subs)

fyp

you mean to say that there is 2 teams in that far flung isolated corner of the russian empire that are making replica's or are rebuilding ww2 vehicles/aircraft ?

[img] www.sras.org/img/photo/russianovosibirskcity.jpg [/img]

must be something in the water, or they have long cold winters :)

More good news from DEDA :)
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1935516

(BAD TRANSLATION)

Colleagues, I do not want to put yourself in an uncomfortable situation, and act as a "broken telephone". Be patient and wait for the official announcement. Yes, I know for sure and certain that the plan, but there are limits beyond which I will not pass. I spoke up enough about the upcoming simulator. The name of the theater of the air war on the Eastern Front did not change as a result, except for the historical nuances. For the official announcement may suffer as a principal decision DO BUDGET THEME, Genre, etc. have long been identified. WORK IN PROGRESS ON simulator. And do not, I think to explain the details of the new project - public information. Post Date? Will take a date for some time. Yes, even before the new year. So what? Banging spoons on the table? Someone breaks the patience? As far as I know, it will all happen in due course. When ready. And no one is going to gather a crowd in the square in front of the Christmas tree. Knowing himself a producer, I am sure that all this work will be focused on results and not on the cheap sensation. After the departure of Oleg with this we have serious problems.

podvox,

thanks for posting it :)

sounds pretty positive !!

To me it looks like a (maybe former) part of RoF team is working hard on the sequel after Ilya has left the building.

Announcement will come ASAP of cause, not earlier.

it is all pure speculation if some old RoF employees are or are now not working for 1C, and with the russian flightsim programmers market being so small it is not an impossibility or particulalry important either (partic since we know several ex 1C BoB employees already ended up at the RoF coalface). and jason from RoF has already formally denied there is any new cooperation agreement between the 2 companies in any formal way, BUT all of that right now is pure speculation, there is NO hard evidence or 1e hand reports about this. neither is there any confirmation luthier might or might not have left

if anybody has some reliable first hand information on this, quote your sources and exact information, if not DONT FILL THIS BOARD WITH WILD NEGATIVE SPECULATION that is not substantiated, it will only spook the feeble minded and will cause another stampede of lemmings jumping over the cliff, to busy smelling each others bottoms to look up and see their stampede is only leading to doom death and destruction !

with CoD having significantly improved recently and many of its major problems having been fixed, we need objectivity and clarity to build on the positives and improve the odds of a good outcome, not wild negative speculation

To me it is very positive news.

yes, it is also good news to me :)

didnt mean to have a go at you, i am just frustrated by the cluster of mindless negative people here (not you) who keep picking at anything that possibly might have some negative implication (even if completely fabricated and without a shred of truth) and then blow things wildly out of proportion.

It is good news, make's me wonder what is coming...could be epic:-P

what seems to me is that the comunity of the funny hats will remain with so much offer whatever hapens to bom

The feeling I was getting from the mangled translation was that there are actual WW2 aircraft based near Novosibrsk that they are able to use as a comparison between game and real life data and/or there are members of the developement team based there but there are problems coordinating and exchanging data as the unpacked files are so large. But of course I am most likely entirely wrong as almost any meaning can be given to stuff from that forum unless you are a native Russian speaker.

I think it would have been better if it had read "DONT FILL THIS BOARD WITH WILD SPECULATION"

Negative or Positive it's all just pointless as without any 'official' news, all of it is speculation.

MP

^

Good news is in high demand and welcomed...even if its just hear say:-P

Gradually we make DEDA tell us new information :)

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1936502

Don´t push it too much, but go on:)

Hi all. I am new to this forum but not to the flight sim's ))). Think it will be nice for you to get some first hand news from the russian sukhoi forum where i and Podvoxx ( 'podvokhh') belong.

As for today folks there are positive that some good news are coming up. We got some info that we should expect Eastern front theatre as a sequel to IL2 series and some work is already being done.At the moment we have only good guess who are those guys but waiting for an official anouncement very soon. Will keep you updated on the matter.

Thank you for that information CARTOON.
Cheers.

Thank you Cartoon. What's your guess about "those guys", if I may ask?

Do not understand why they do not just do this sort of thing ...

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...sy-sandbox-mmo

With their track record most people wouldn't touch it with a barge pole

Not to mention that this is - IMO - first and foremost for small indie studios and not for a "department" of a big publisher.

Well known with a well earned reputation in creating flightsim .I hope today we get some info.

And the board went wild! (maybe)

Amen to that Cartoon.
And spasiba tavarich.

Viking

Thanks. Albeit I highly doubt that we will have any news from 1C in the next months (or years ...).

I do have one very serious suggestion to the folks at 1C when they are ready ( whenever that is...) to release BoM : They hire Thomas at Desastersoft ( or someone like him,)to design the default campaigns.I think we can all agree that the ones released with the original CloD were both short & sketchy,whereas some of the third party ones we now see are quite well designed ,with interesting action on the ground as well as in the air-better menus too.Having purchased both Wick vs.Dundas & yesterday the Galland Fighter Aces campaign,I can only praise the developer for really thinking through the potential of CloD and using it to the full.IC & Ubisoft have a history of bring new elements to a flight sim ( think Pacific Fighters & 1946 ,) but not really exploiting these new aircraft & maps with anything very interesting in camapigns especially or single missions.To me they look very much like an after thought,but put a guy like Thomas on it & boy you might really have something!)
( An unsolicitated review & unpaid for to boot!}

I agree and the third party campaigns have peaked my interest in flying again. I think the developers have the right priority, concentrating more on providing a decent FMB so the community who may have a more historical background, imagination, and flair to build the missions and campaigns. A mission/campaign builder in the development two or three years ago would have a hard time considering the state of the game engine they had to work with. There are still AI, and FMB problems etc, that need to be addressed in the Sequel so they can be applied to BOB campaigns and missions.

Sorry I call BS on this. Random guys turns up with vague comments, of no facts, we are supposed to believe it?

^
Absolutely would make some question, but there is a cartoon over there who has many posts

Another one line doomsayer. If you don't like his translation go to sukhoi forum and do it yourself. Then when you have some evidence that he's a troll come back and present your case

Now that was ignorant, maybe you should do some investicating before your insulting rant.

It is all a rouse as BoM stands for Battle of the Mediterranean.

If he were to troll, why should he first announce his trolling? He could also just spread some wrong facts without introducing himself first....

would be easier...

ermmm... it was planespotter that made the Troll allegation, not Chivas.

I know... quoting him didn´t mean to accuse him, but rather to ad a point to his argument...

Sorry for the missunderstanding.

First of all thank you for warm wellcome ))) I hope very soon you will get the ultimate answer to your question on my dumbness level.

Well, from my side, I appreciate every new information, so please go on CARTOON. Whoever doesn´t believe you or doesn´t like it, just should not read what you write....
I will read it!

Thank you very much!

The problem is Cartoon that many times we have heard from 'unofficial' (read that as unconfirmed) sources, who drop by, tell us that everything is going to be fine, news is coming soon, and then nothing is heard 'soon'.

Deda said news was coming 'soon' and detailed the now legendary 1c time scale "two weeks" and that was five-weeks ago!

So it's no surprise that people get fed up hearing " I know something you don't know but I can't tell you!"

I do hope that there is a future for CloD with an update that fixes the issues that have persisted since day 1 and yet have been ignored in the unread bugtracker.

Sadly though, until some true official news, I have to consider all positive reports from people "In the know" as speculation as is negative speculation too.

Currently it's all just 'White noise'.

MP

Thanks CARTOON, I appreciate any info, especially from the Russian forums, who are little closer to the situation. I would imagine any info good or bad would get leaked there first. Just hearing the development is still alive is good news. If the development had been shut down, there would have been more than a few leaks from disgruntled team members. That said there could have been some changes, someone like Luthier for instance could have been a scapegoat, warranted or not.

If I were to guess, I would think that we may have official announcement on Fri. the 21 st. of December...under 2 weeks! hoping:-P

OMG!! you didn't just pin-point a date that was under two weeks!!?! This is one of the ways that a Black Hole is created, you know that don't you? :mrgreen:

Oh geeze what have I done, and you have already been sucked in! :grin:

You want me to prove the world is round too? If he is not troll he will post some real fact not 'in two weeks' style rubbish.


+1

No, I already know the world is round.

Cartoon simply tries to pass on some information from the sukhoi forum in the best English he can manage.

All you can do is make snide comments about his English (how's your Russian?) and call him a Troll for having the consideration to pass on what he has heard. Oh, and "with English worse than mine", you demand he "Proof that you are not just a dumb troll". You see, that should be "Prove that you are.....". English.

Do you have anything to support your BS call?

Its almost like only negative speculation could be considered believable, anything else is Trolling.

hiya Cartoon,

welcome to the english 1C forums, and thanks for passing on some of the information from the russian forums

any insight or comments given on the russian forums by "people in the know" are very gratefully received here when you can pass them on. just ignore some of the rude or paranoid people here, they either cant understand more complex matters, are troll or whiners, or were raised without manners.

Yes. Wait a minute while I go and register new identity and then I will come and post it. Apparently the most trusted source has post count of 1.

And I take back troll, dumb and English words. That was not nice of me and I regret it.

Starving animals always smell food when there is none...

All I'll say is "don't shoot the messenger" whatever the message is.
We have, however, to read between the lines.

For example....

This is pure speculation from my part but it sounds like the "sequel" will be made using the ROF engine to me!

- No new engine
- Only air war
- Content sales

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1936502

About time they employed an English speaking person to stop all this crap translation /rumours/misunderstanding

... sniff sniff... real Merlins? No... its.... its more like a Wasp. No... wait... is that a Shvetzov?

:(+1000.

1C is a joke.

podvox,

thanks for passing on the information,........but........ i see many problems with what is said (or implied) there by DEDA
- The man who gets the head of the project, knows that we want all these long years. He made it clear this is not just empty words:: so far so good, sounds like they found an experienced manager to run the project
- no long-term construction, the invention of new engines for the simulator or patching up the old, : the only way to get BoM out the door soon is to use the CoD engine, which is fine, t runs well now, but what about the "patching up the old" ? we obviously still need significant further fixes for the new CoD engine, why speak of no fixes or patches ?
- no stupid cows and tens of micro cards (meaning small maps probably ?). No fancy today MMO (good news, diverting to an MMO project after barely fixing CoD would be a disaster imho, we now need BoM as the next installment and have it run well at release time before any other projects are considered, would be very bad management indeed to now try and change horses mid stream
- virtual pilot needs simulator and honest war in the air and not another attempt to pile all the genres in the world. this is the biggest problem i see with DEDA's perspective, sounds like they want to dumb down the grand vision oleg had (which was created after years of feedback from the community), to now chuck out all the grand elements we wanted (rearm and refuel, dynamic campaign, detailed campaign engine that can run 24/7, dynamic weather, detailed AI routines for ground traffic of civilian roads and rail (as well as military movements), some limited control of ground vehicles and ships (no not a full extra sim, but they built the features so let us ave them please), detailed ground grafix with "moving grass" etc...

most of those advanced elements are already built into the sim, and took years to create. to chuck all of that out because some new pen pusher is taking over the project would be a tremendous waste imho, you'd end up with a bland empty world like RoF, which doesnt touch on the depth of what sims like falcon4 and mig-alley had 15 yrs ago. and yes please, when i come in for my emergency landing with a damaged aircraft in some french farmers field, i'd like to see the the cows in the paddock scatter and run for their lives, is that really to much to ask in 2013 ? i fear we might be going back to a soviet style gameplay with no sophistication or imagination. NO LADA OR TRABANT STYLE FLIGHTSIM PLEASE, WE WANT OLEGS GRAND VISION REALIZED !!. just fix the freakin thing and activate all the grand complex elements that have been worked on for years (most of which are near completion already), or release those parts to the community to work on !

you better put your glasses on

RoF is directX8 and its poor little performance is so overstretched they cant squeze anything more out of it, they cant even model flight physics in real time and rely on canned and scripted modeling

to many people are deluded by a few shiny things they see and believe all that glitters is gold, RoF is totally useless for any of us that aim to obtain realistic flight physics in a next gen grafix environment

and no, for the feeble minded for who this reality check will trigger a knee jerk reaction from, dont derail this thread with your RoF fanboy chants your in the wrong department, go to your own den in the defunk toy department in the basement and keep that nonsense out of here

Of course they will fix it Zap, the fixes are easy and simple, according to what you have told me.

+1! :!:

1.- I said in my post "don't shoot the messenger" and that's exactly what you are doing.
2.- I don't own ROF so the "ROF fanboy" attack does not work with me.
3.- Glasses are needed by those who can't read.

NO way the R0F engine will work for a WW2 sim.

It cannot handle even modest numbers of ground objects. How are you going to simulate proper ground attack, which is the heart of the air war in the East?

R0F is very enjoyable, but it is also very, very limited in it's capabilities. One look at it's sterile, picture post card world environment should be a big clue.

Colander, please don't waste your time on these people who have only ever contributed hate and negativity. You cannot change them, nothing can, and they are not worth it at all.

New rumors
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1940229

thanks for the post podvoxx !

oks, using google translator those last few posts just added more confusion :)

no idea or indication who the poster is either. it also conflicts with DEDA's earlier information that work on BoM was continuing. still, that might just be a terminology issue about the exact name of the next sequel, as long as they are hard at work creating the next ww2 flightsim all is well

the good news is that whatever announcement we are due to get to clarify all this, should be coming fairly soon, rather then be months away

I really just hope that whatever happens the original CloD gets fixed by 1C or by the talented modders who have already shown there are fixes possible that could so easily have been done for the 'final' patch.

Regarding the translation giving conflicting information to Deda, do all of us now go with the new info. or is that seen as unofficial (unlike Deda's and Cartoons) and therefore dismissed as heresy?

Currently all I see is unofficial posts where the positive ones are true and the negative are just speculation?

Shall we just request that speculative threads are deleted until the official news which was reported unofficially to arrive 3-weeks-ago?

MP

Why are you waiting on 1C to fix CLoD when they have time and time again said that they have stopped all work on it? Give it up already. :rolleyes:

I suppose that someone is blaiming the whole clod delays on the big idea of making this not just a flight sim, but a full war engine.
Is the only logical explanation for so many exagerated details on ground objects.

In general, I swear I never got that clear view of a truck I'am straffing to see it's license plates! :P

On the other hand, ground objects movements have been almost unattended, and they trully worked fine on il2, with some problems, but with rational work arounds. On clod, is something that it is still beta.

I agree that on BoB ground objects are not very usefull except ships, that work far better than on il2, but are lacking a bit on the variety depatment.

Now, the flying is superb, so putting everything aside from what we started to see last patch, sounds like stupidity.

To recover this developement mess, they just need to follow one step at a time, and not start a whole new project from scratch. Last patch was excellent. They recovered some time, now they could work on the tools for campaigns developement. Games like Wot and similar got you tired a bit faster than il2, maybe they make more money on the concept, but they are abandoned sooner.

i think ground movement of ai vehicles and trains is already in a much more advanced state then many of us have realized.

there already are CoD users who have created some complex tank battles (with the winner gaining territory and advancing to engage the next objectives, or "capture" opponents airfields for ex), and (limited) user made major activations of features like having supply convoys on roads traveling to specific destinations, ambulances and fire trucks meeting damaged aircraft that land, having both rail and civilian buses running on pre-planned routes and making stops at stations, 1e person control of some ground vehicles or ships, 1e user control of AA guns on land or guns on ships, creation of a complex chain radar system with real time early warnings to flight crews etc...

no doubt it needs more work (and specifically a user interface, rather then having to edit files with code), but large elements are already there, and they were largely finished when oleg tried to assemble all these pre-completed elements in his last phase of creating a working beta product (when to his dismay the gfx engine turned out not to be up to scratch)

it would be one of the biggest acts of managerial stupidity to chuck all of that out for the sake of wanting a "simple flightsim"

I agree on the advantages opened by coding, but I was talking about objects plainly dissappearing on the ground, or tracking through buildings.

Maybe those are more object or map oriented bugs. Don't know for sure.

On the other hand, a sim with full interaction with ground objects, is a bit different from an all vehicle sim... the first you got reasonable behaviour on ground troops, and artillery. The other is more like a Battlefield scenario... well... it would be awesome! But have all that with the damage quality of airplanes in CloD, in all vehicles, and maybe humans... I think it is still a concept a bit too soon to be fully implemented.

I could bet money that when they started manning ground objects inside of CloD, they improved damage boxes to wheels, tracks, engines, fuel tanks, and ammo storage instantly.

I believe they allowed their imagination to fly too high, got a lot of fun doing it, but got completely out of time schedulles. I won't blame them, but someone allready had, for sure.

I think that we should encourage a money per fully working patch here. The game deserves it, and maybe it helps them to be more on the spot, without loosing the ability to fly high because of a low budget ceiling. ;)

Oleg's original plan was to build a complex game engine, for more than one use, not just air to air battles, but also designed to eventually have combined forces, and movie making features to be fleshed out slowly as the air series developed, then full throttle when all the air theaters were completed.

Aircraft were first implemented in wars to be a factor in the ground war, so it makes sense to build a game engine that could eventually add more complex ground war features. They tried to make "every" aspect of the game engine more complex, they obviously didn't think it would take this long, if they did, they would have just built the Battle of Britain on the old game engine. Personally I'm glad they made the decision to build a new game engine, and give kudos to the IC publishers for financing the develpment as long as they have.

"Personally I'm glad they made the decision to build a new game engine, and give kudos to the IC publishers for financing the develpment as long as they have. "

dude gives kudos every damn day.

yes, and many of us here wanted that grand vision of the SoW series to come to life, and the current CoD already gives a good indication of the many other elements that are included that are taking it beyond being "a simple flightsim". we dont want it to become a 1e person shooter, or a ship sim, but having some control over some ground vehicles and ships was a truly visionary leap forward that would really set the sim apart (and other developers are also working in that direction). we also need the dynamic campaign engine to let servers run 24/7, and a gradual implementation of the dynamic weather system etc

one of the most recent sukoi posts provided here by podvox however indicates that the "new manager" they are about to put in charge is appealing to the financiers because he is arguing for a "simple flightsim" (without many of the expanded elements oleg was working on) and that he will dumb down the whole SoW series.

to do this at a time when they just solved the main problem with CoD/BoM would be the largest act of managerial stupidity ever committed. it is not a problem if they halt further work on those elements, and reassess them in 6 or 12 months time after BoM is released, but to actually cut them out now and completely remove them for the sake of a few short term slaps on the back by the same senior managers who created the problem in the first place (by them not seeing that oleg as part time manager didnt control the project well enough) would be a total folly. what we need now id for BoM to be released soon with many further fixes of the old unfinished elements (like AI behavior and commands), and release a well rounded product that will regain 1C-SoW's reputation

for ex luthier indicated the AI aircraft routines and AI commands needed a total rewrite of the code which would take many months, and couldn't be sorted out with a short term quick fix. so will the new trabant-managers for the sake of simplicity also remove the elements like AI pilot experience and bravery elements that were built into the advanced AI routines by oleg ? will we end up with generic bland AI that has a uniform behavior and response ? i really hope not. similarly if the sim is currently designed to allow for some limited ground vehicle control (tank/trucks etc), why not leave that element in and let the community expand on it in its own way instead of removing it completely ? similarly if there is already a limited ability to control AA flak units or guns on tanks (we have seen screenshots of this), leave it in ffs and dont just remove it.

i really hope the russian users are as concerned about this as we are, or we'll end up with a bland dumbed down empty soulless world with a few pretty objects and a limited perpetual airquake scenario, what a waste that would be after all the hard work that was already put in all those previous years.

Hi ! Sure we are discussing it there and the question rises - where is Oleg with his planes of " capturing the Galaxy" ?

p.s. on russian forum we guess it is going to be Battle of Stalingrad very likely and it is hot on our forum right now. We have read signs and something is certainely going to happen very soon. That was another gossips from the dumb troll )))

:lol: Cartoon!

Thanks for keeping us informed.

Go back to beating your dog dude.

I agree it would be a travesty to dumb down the development plans and make it just another 'also ran' or 'me too' combat flight sim. It was always intended to take us forward, not stand still or even go backwards.

But are 1C listening? Are they even reading this, tucked away in the Pilots Lounge of a forum for a game they have already stepped away from? I doubt if they even come here now.

If they laid out their roadmap for SoW, even at top level with general scope, I think the community would go with it, at least knowing the plan. There doesn't even have to be a fixed timescale, just a declaration of intent. At the moment we are expecting 'the sequel', "CoD on the Eastern Front with some more fixes". What with that and the speculation on the sukhoi forum about a new manager its not surprising that we are sceptical about where the future lies. There isn't even a forum for games under development.

I do have to correct you on one poiint though zapatista, "having some control over some ground vehicles and ships was a truly visionary leap forward " is not a visionary leap forward at all. It has been in Aces High for over ten years. And it is a great addition.

Doesn't get any better chaps :cool:

http://forum.il2sturmovik.net/

Still have to wait for the 2014 release date. Hmmm ! which engine will it be running? Will it be a pregression of the COD engine or the ROF??????

With this change the cards are well and truely shuffled and thrown into the air. Where they will land is any bodies guess!


Cheers! What ever else it will be one hell of a ride! It real is an immersion killer for me!

edit
Oh dear COD is dead as far as development is concerned!

I hope the (ROF) fix the trees so they don't spin

lol, "i told you so" just doesn't quite seem to cut it.....

Quite. ;)

Some of the clod squad will need quite a bit of time to adjust I suspect.

A-hah, but they didn't "promise" that the next instalment would merge with CLOD did they? They just said it would...

Oh...

Hood

Dare I ask if this website is genuine or a spoof? Can anyone confirm?

If its real it raises the question "can the community get its hands on the CoD code and/or SDK to try to sort it out?"

It's real. Blacksix has posted an announcement on here.

I'm staying positive about this development as it means we do, at the very least, have a future. Let's see what they cook up for us.

I would like to see them release the code/SDK though... if only as a goodwill gesture. It would be funny if someone like TD ended up turning CloD into something that blew Stalingrad out of the skies.... which is why, I suspect, we won't be getting the SDK.... :D