Well yes...but I forgot what it was.....

It was to announce, when the next major announcement was to be scheduled. Regarding a release date for a patch to fix the problems created by the last patch.

'Underpromise, overdeliver' is a public relations strategy in US business/marketing culture felt to lead to the highest level of customer satisfaction.

I was suggesting that the CloD team consider following this axiom.

IE, estimate a next patch in about 4 weeks, release it in 2. Say that it may make modest improvements in FPS and then people find it improves performance by 40%. Etc.

Now you're overestimating the care they give.

Some people really need to get out and enjoy the summer...

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A patch is nice but no money and a new module is money the developing team is working on something with the prospect of making money!
You wanted capitalism we all get capitalism!
Live with it.
:evil:

Maybe you should take your own advice. I mean, you are in here are you not?

Did I miss something? The update was scheduled for monday. Any reason for being late?

That wing was assimilated!:-)

Guys, I'm sorry, but I fell ill on Friday and couldn't answer your questions. I hope to get back to work today or tomorrow.

Good morning Blacksix ,hope you feel a bit better by now.
And most importantly ..don't rush it if you still feel ill.

Hope you feel better B6:-)

B6, Do You know English in 1C only? Why any member of Your Team couldnt put here link for autogen fix/next alpha patch?

Get well soon B6, hope your feeling better and back at work soon.

Is Luthier ill too?

i think everybody is ill too at the office

This is what they have to show for ~2 years of post launch work? :shock:

What a waste of time and labor clod has been for everyone involved, users and devs alike.

The whole project is case study material, really.

:twothumbsdown:

don't blame ill people to be ill :-x

Meanwhile use the waiting time to explore the beauty of this great sim.

B6, get well.

And we don't want answers to our questions, we're past that atm.

we want the build (with the forest autogen fix and all the other work you did these weeks) you were packaging on friday, and should have been presented to us yesterday. And the proper readme to it, describing all the (important) fixes and changed contained into it (and all the readmeless latest beta patches).

that would be all, please.

+++1

B6 but You are from PR Department only. People from IT dont have ACCESS for this Forum (???) and cant put a link for Autogen fix?

Hmmmm, looks VERY strange..... :rolleyes:

+++++++++ 1

Suppose they cant give us what they aint got. :!:

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, smells like a duck, quacks like a duck, farts like a duck, it must be a.............. sick duck.

Hurry up, for god's sake

If other companys worked with Maddox Games' mentality, man we would see world end before maya calender finished.

I wrote the above back on page 14 before I went to work, I wrote it Monday morning at 5:14am and my prediction came true. What I didn't expect though was to hear no news at all after all the hype from B6. I see that he has since posted to say that he was ill and that's fair enough, but why not use this opportunity just to say a few things about the patch aswell after the hype?

potnoodled indeed!:(

Couldn't give me next week's lottery numbers could you?

Get well soon BlackSix.

Nice petulant attitude round here.

Once you guys have stopped behaving like spoiled brats and have collected your toys and put them back in the pram perhaps you might take the time to consider a few things, like adults:

1) B6 is not a native English speaker -albeit quite a good one - and some of what he said on Friday*might* have beeen lost in translation. Perhaps the patch was never due out today.

2) They might have run into a serious issue with patch that can't be 'just fixed' as some round here seem to think it so easily done.

3) B6 is ill - and yet some of you still hound him for not establishing the patch status! Grow a little empathy will ya?! Some of us in this world have more important things to do - it's called life btw - than drip feed people here information on the status of a computer game. Jeez!

4) Given the recent move of Maddox Games and the general air of poor communication I'd hazard a guess that things are pretty tough there at the moment financially; I suspect that a lot of programmers are working long hours with little or no overtime pay to try and fix the game engine; the complexity of the new game features with the concurrent analysis of several million lines of still neophyte code to go through - most of which, if changed, will have several knock on effects to still more code - I personally am not surprised at the length of time fixes are taking to come about. Remember that peoples job security hangs on the ability to fix the code in order to make Battle Over Moscow, and ANY of the prospective further developments viable, sellable products. Those guys will know that. They will understand that in order to save their jobs and look at some prospect of employment longevity it has to be done. Or face the Russian dole queue (is there one?) in the midst of a world wide ecomomic recession. Given that motivation I don't think that attitudes round here are a) very relevent or b) very helpful.

5) I appreciate many of you are angry at having paid out for essentially a lame duck. It shouldn't have been released in that state but developer and publisher contracts are Holy writ. In an ideal world the 6 years of development should have come to more than this, I agree. However in the history of computer gaming things like this have always happened - how many duff games have hit the shelf over the years to be poorly supported, if at all. Christ, CFS2 was chock full of bugs - for those who remember it - and that was Microsofts most succesful Combat Flight Sim! The point is you can't keep haranguing them for it - what is done is done, and no amount of bitching moaning or threatening can change that.

5) We've been spoilt with Il-2, first by Oleg and now Team Daidalos, whose free and regular quality patching over the past 11 years has been exemplary, if not unique. However Il-2s coding is by all accounts several orders of magnitude simpler. All those features you wanted for BoB, that weren't in Il-2? Extra code. And not just one line, but probably a several hundred, each one cascading and interlinked to many others. Finding the faults, let alone fixing is going to take much more time than with Il-2. And every time you do fix, it is likely that it throws something else out. You demanded certain things be modelled, you said that you wanted higher fidelity. Well welcome to the cost gentlemen. Codes don't write themselves. Someone - and not just any someone but a trained, smart, motivated, alert and observant computer programmer - has to be sitting in front of a machine punching the keys. This takes time. Get used to it.

Yah Fenrir...well said.

it is easy to get sucked into the vortex...

Thanks for the Calibration...

<S>

+1. So true, and very well said.

Bloody right on, Walrus 1! I've never seen such negativism in my life as exhibited by the so-called adults on this Forum! Typical of the over-pampered, instant gratification, generation who expect everything NOW, if not sooner. I've been very tempted to quit my membership in this Playroom until some some maturity is exhibited, but as I also am looking forward to the end results I'll stay and just ignore the rants. Although my PC is not fast enough to really enjoy CLOD right now, I hope to improve it shortly. Meanwhile, my hat's off to the guys at 1C for their efforts to constantly improve things, and for not throwing their hands in the air with disgust at the reception they get all the time! Just know that some of us DO appreciate your work, Developers, and support you wholeheartedly! To the cry-babies on the Forum, GROW UP!

Well said, Walrus1 :!:

You articulated my thoughts exactly.

This is the most complex flight simulator in the world. And by far.

The developers have entered new and very challenging digital territory.

I compare the developers to Alcock and Brown, who in 1919 were the first to fly the Atlantic non-stop. The flight was long and dangerous. They almost died. Many said it couldn't be done and others hoped for their failure. But they didn't give up. They survived. And today, we take for granted their achievements.

Out thoughts are with you all.


Very Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

:grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:

Get well soon, BlackSix! Thanks for the update!

Hi

Any issue ?

since you play the devil's advocate role, let me take the prosecutor's one, please.. will you?!!

so.. let's see..

1) it isn't B6's fault that he's not good at english (and he really isn't). on the other hand, it's surely MG's fault.. how hard would it be to find out a decent english speaking employee in 2012? I guess, specially when that's a programmer, it's actually harder to try and find one who isn't at least an acceptable english speaker.

most of the game development/programming/WW2 and WW2 aviation documentation are in english.. don't tell me.. they have a translator.. well then, they could have using that translator to translate their forum posts too, you know..

it's like a summer beach hotel hiring a babylonian speaking only receptionist in the middle of the season.. or like shooting yourself in your leg!

this goes for a Darwin award class B :)

2) i'm 200% sure that's the case.. but yet.. why just not tell us so.. and tell us the shop is closed for another week, until they'll clean up all the bugs and they can open it again.. how sadistic a person one must be to keep the customers in line for a full week, while you're painting your bakery's walls with insecticide?!!

this again goes for a Darwin award, class B :)

3) and?!! people got ill all the time. people even die, you know? do you think MG will stop selling BoM for a week because one of us died while waiting for it?

also, we have a life too, and I don't like to spend it F5'ing MG's forum.. a minimum respect for my customer's status and time would have been to just put a "go away no patch new until 25th august 2020" 9 words announcement on the forum.. would that have been too much to ask for my 60 £ Collector's Edition IL2CoD?!!

the show must go on, as I'm sure you know it. B6 is ill, we all wish him well, but this doesn't meant there's no one else on this world which could write a few lines in a post on the forum..

for God's sake, even copy/pasting the build's download link would have been enough, we already got used to getting them without any kind of readme whatsoever!

there you go, you wouldn't even have to knew english to do this.

Darwin class D for this one.

3) hmm.. dunno what to say about that.. I would have thought that IL2CoD's launch reception and sales faster than light sale drops should have thought them until now that they really need to pull up their heads from their arses and actually do something to fix the mess they've created it by themselves!

but considering their behavior.. it seems not.. and in this case, a vocal punishing community expressing it's frustration might still wake them up and force them do the right thing, by showing the only dragon they fear: our wallet :)

Another D in here..

5) what are you trying to say in here.. that if some game on which we paid once was shitty and full of bugs, we must continue to accept and pay for shitty and full of bugs games?!!

aaa.. really?!!

This one's a clear winner for an A Darwin award :)

6) (I'm sure you meant this last one to actually by 6, and not 5 bis)

are you a programmer? have you ever worked in game development industry? have you ever coded a game for yourself? have you at least read some books about game development?

no?

then.. how can you pretend that IL2CoD's is the most complicated game to code in this part of the Universe?!!

the scenario you actually put in there is actually valid for all games, even for Solitaire.. this really shows your level of expertise in this one.

and just to let you know, IL2CoD it is NOT, and this by far, the most complicated game/software to be developed these days (and if you need arguments fo this, do a search for one of my posts about this).

stop being an ignorant pretending he knows the absolute truth, and start using your head to do the thinking.

And another A Darwin award winner :)


And in the end, just to make it crystal clear: we all know that development takes time, and nothing can be achieved over night. We're just asking for respect, to be treated like adults and not to be feeded with ridiculous lies even a blind man can see through!

adonys, it's impolite to burst one's "absolute truth bubble" by throwing Darwin awards at it.

mate, actually all the Darwin awards were for the MG team and their actions..

Thanks, but give Fenrir, who said it originally, all the credit! I just +1'ed.

These forums make me a little ill at times as well :D

Lol..I wasnt going to say anything..thought id give you your moment to bath in glory :)

It is so sad that someone is cultivating his dissatisfaction and limited view with so much energy.

Really wasted energy, imo.

Oh BRAVO.... :rolleyes:

People of your ilk have long lost the right to be 'treated like adults' as your above post so aptly demonstrates.

Has it ever occured to you that the programming crew might spend so many hours in a day trying to get stuff fixed that they might not relish the idea of coming in here and being haranged by obnoxious flaming little brats of the ilk that you so excellently typify. To know that you frustrations wll be compounded by whiny grabbing ignorants who'll villify you for your efforts because they can't generate enough brain power to look beyond their own selfish little desires?

I'd stay so damn far away it's not funny.

B6 is their spokes person, he was away for one damn day for reasons beyond his control. Sh1t happens, get over it.

And as for programming, No I'm not a programmer, but I've used enough html and flash codes over the years and had friends of mine who are try to explain coding that actually I damn well KNOW it CAN be that complicated. You are the one who sounds like he doesn't have a clue. Unless of course you have a brand new WW2 flight sim of amazing high fidelity flight dyamics, with your own home built game engine waiting in the wings?

No? i didn't think so. Just goes to show there are too many pretentious ignorant pricks around here.

On both sides of the argument.

You present a very good case for 1c to hire a professional organization to finish what has been started !

What role does B6 have in developing or compiling the patch? Is it difficult to upload and link the patch and the readme?

Sure B6 does a hard job, but the rest don't seem to back him up. I don't know of many businesses that are reliant on customer goodwill that just don't support each other.

I think I'll be junior counsel for the prosecution.

Hood

Just for the record, I would say most adults want a satisfactory outcome to a product they have purchased. I would also expect most adults to kick up a fuss if they kept getting fobbed off with what looks like the same stuff week in and week out. So lets cut out the "child jibes" shall we if we want to act like adults.

If people spent as much energy in the sim as they do in the forums


1) we would have a deeper knowledge of how things work in the sim, making it easier to see exactly why something else doesn't work

2) we would have compiled our own comprehensive, prioritised bug list and submitted it to 1c, making it much faster to correct them.

3) we would have workarounds for most of the things that don't work

4) armed with all the above, we would have tons of missions to enjoy (online and offline) because people would be able to work around the problems


You know, like Wolf does in his channel command mission that is hosted on ATAG. Or like some of us did in trying to give a proper battle of Britain feel to this sim, first by trying to make bombers workable and then by advocating certain priorities in specific gameplay fixes. Highly unpopular gameplay fixes but negligible in terms of work hours required (especially compared to some of the more popular features), which however have a tremendous effect on gameplay. You know, stuff like the LW bombers being able to aim their bombs in a sim about a battle where LW was bombing the UK. Or getting someone to copy-paste the working code from the He-111's gyrocompass to the non-working Ju88's gyrocompass. We've had to wait 18 months for that last one, not because the devs didn't know about it, but because too many people thought the tracers were not squiggly enough, or the grass was too green, or whatever else "highly important" feature that was shouted from the rooftops at various points in time and had to be appeased by taking full priority in the dev team's schedule :-P


Well, people like Wolf want things to work in the game and he made them work. Now he's got the developer's ear and is in direct communication with them about bug hunting and testing, because he sees things that the majority of users don't: FMB bugs, scripting issues, netcode problems, etc. Important stuff. In a similar fashion, in the "news from sukhoi.ru" thread i saw that they are fixing the bombsights too.

The sim will start feeling like battle of Britain instead of battle of the Dover-Calais strait, compared to that a delay of a few days or even a week or two is inconsequential to me. If they told me "we'll fix all known bugs in all aircraft systems but release the patch two weeks later" i'd say "sure, go for it", because:
- It's easier and totally unambiguous to get right, as opposed to the endless FM/DM debates. A switch is a switch and does a specific thing.
- It ups the realism and authenticity, giving us more to play with until everything else is ironed out.
- Even if the FMs are a bit dodgy still, it gives us aircraft that can function in their intended role.


Overall, the funny thing is that a few people in the community who just wanted the sim to work for themselves and did something to achieve it, will result in the sim getting fixed faster for everyone, including those who think we're wasting our time. Well, in a sense we are all wasting our time here, it's a hobby.

The difference is how much you (impersonal "you", in general) make the hobby work for you, because that's what differentiates between the "good" and "bad" kinds of wasted time. You put some time in, you get some knowledge out of it that helps you enjoy it more. Or you can just tell everybody else to hurry up in the forums, report the bugs for you, find the workarounds for you, host the servers for you, build the missions for you, etc etc. Well, if they thought like you, none of that would ever get done and your $50 would surely have been wasted. So either join them in their efforts or let them do their job for you in peace.
You might have paid money to maddox games, but you haven't paid any to all the community members that are helping the developer team fix your game, have you now? Well, we don't want money, we just want to be left to work in peace for a while :-P

And to say nothing about that this was priced as an AAA title (US$50).

I wonder if B6 is fibbing about being sick to cover for "unforeseen circumstance". I used to do that sometimes when I didn't want to go to school. "Mom, I don't feel good". It's a pretty good trick. Maybe we should do a poll?;)

So this is what it's come to eh Blackdog? Be-littling gamers because they wan't a sim to work instead of becoming a developer themselves? I don't know about others, but I work for a living and barely have time to actually play my sims let alone learn C# scripting or start poking around for work arounds.

For the people that have done this....I applaud them for taking the time to try and find workarounds for this mess...but time isn't a luxury all of us have. If 1C was up front and marketed this as a "buy in Beta program" then you might have a better point. Telling us to be good little lemmings and just take it in the shorts for the $50 to $70 isn't gonna fly with everyone. People are frustrated...and have every right to be IMO.

+1

A logical solution while waiting for the devs to complete this very complicated sim, and infinitely more constructive than infantile destructive forum trolling.

Money is spent...most of you that are of age... and that does not appear to be many.... have whizzed away more than $50 on Beer, Cigs and other worthless junk...

Using the cost to make a point .....as a gripe point..... is just ridiculous

I would be willing to send many $50...to just go away

:cool:

Ridiculous? Then why do you think people are willing to pay more for a top product and less for a standard/mediocre product? That's just how our society works. Supply and demand, you know?

If you a buy a brand new ultra-modern computer for $1500 and it wouldn't turn on because something inside it is f*cked up you couldn't complain about it. Because there are many ultra-cheap unreliable $50 computers that get broken easily and you cannot use the costs to make a gripe point. Is that your logic?

Most have gotten their $50.00 worth of b!tching, though.... I'd venture to say that some have even got their $1500.00 worth of b!tching (on both sides of the CoD coin).

The $50.00 issue may be important to some, but the amount of whining and insulting that has gone on is way more than would happen for the same $50.00 if this was not in some anonymous forum and instead was a real life person to person transaction.

I know that if someone was to be outside my business hurling insults and slander, there would only be a certain amount of time that my patience would stop me from seeking due course of action - if not by police, then a good kick in the ass to the offender. Unless some here seek bar fights on a regular basis, I doubt the crap spewn would be casually thrown around in a bar where one's actions could be called into account.

$50.00 doesn't give license to be a horses patute. I've witnessed this sort of behaviour from both camps.

Even the CFS3 fiasco didn't attract the same carry-ons which go on here

you are not, but I am a programmer, and even more, a game designer and a game producer, and I've worked on developing games and software for the last 10 years, from MMORPGs to virtual operating systems for ARM tablets.

imagine that I dare to say I know more about game developing than you, and your friend, and another 10 like you both together!

because no one really loved the bug-pit that CFS2 was, or the arogant bastards from M$.

you can not hate without loving first.

and about the matter at hand.. do you imagine how ridiculous their excuse sounds? do you imagine M$, or Nlizzard, or Activision, or Take2, or Electronic Arts, or Ubisoft, or any other western game developer announcing a conferece on a date, to then only post on their forums that their CEO is on a trip, and the conferece announcer got sick for a day or two, so they won't have any conference at all.. while the conference room is still stuffed up with press reprezentatives waiting for the answer..

norhing short of simply ridiculous! if your brain does see that as a valid, mature and acceptable excuse, I would say that you have a high fever at least..

I'm fed up with this kind of behavior and excuses! I understand their difficult situation, lack of good programmers and project managers, and the fact that a patch might need a long time to be coded, but I do not want to be treated like a mental disordered brain dead child in the mean time!

People are complaining because the creator of the product they've purchased is giving them motives.

They are not complaining about futile issues, like the appearance of the trees or because they didn't like the ending (like in Mass Effect 3).

Instead, they are complaining because they've purchased (including myself) a crude and broken product (apparently in alpha stage) for an AAA price. And to this day (9 months after the last patch), the creators have progressed very little to change this aspect.

and all of you hypocrites telling the rest that 50 euro are nothing (and actually to all Il2 CoD community), I would love to see you act accordingly: when BoM is out, why won't you buy 10, or at least 5, copies, as those 50 euro are nothing to you, thus doing many goods to this sim:
- multiply MG's income by 5 or 10
- rise up the number of sold copies by 5 or 10, making the publishers present a new interest to this genre
- attract new people to WWII flight sim genre by giving away the extra copies trough unknown gamers not playing this kind of game

there you go! let's see how you are responding to this proposal, which actually would be the best way to support this game series and genre..

vote with your money, or forever shut up about those "insignifiant" 50s!!!

The difference is, I enjoy having a pint and a Cigarette, so I'm not bothered about spending money on something like that.

I haven't had any enjoyment out of this game yet, because I'm still waiting on a patch to fix all that.

I would be careful what you say because I'm sure many will except your offer of $50 just to go away.

+1

Do the math: 10 copies are 500 Euros. When you multiply a quantity by ten you have increased it by 'an order of magnitude,' which nearly anyone would consider a very significant difference. So your argument is flawed.

In my opinion this game has been worth what I paid for it, even as is, bugs and all. If it is ever perfected, it would be worth quite a bit more, at least to me.

None?

For me, starting in a highly detailed cockpit with working controls, going through a complex, somewhat realistic startup procedure, getting into the air and flying through a fairly accurate map of England replete with historic landmarks in a graphics environment that, although not without flaws, seems to me to be more beautifully rendered than any other WW2 flight sim is quite enjoyable.

I had some momentary good enjoyment but It halted when I got acquainted with the campaign system (which is very rudimentary) and by a "bug" that prevented me from progressing further (enemy bombers when shot, "land" over the ocean and remains floating there, and the game doesn't recognize it as a kill).

I read somewhere they are planning a sequel. How can that be if they are already failing to fix the current product (that took many years to be made)? Games are supported on trust developed between creators and customers. Would you buy a product from a creator that sold a crude product and failed to fix it 1.5 year after its release?

You got potential, good developers, but I think you should review your internal processes and hire a new project manager.

Hi, I'm back to my work. As you understand, the patch is not ready yet. We are working on. If it was ready on Monday or Tuesday, it would be released without my participation, don't worry.

Thanks for the update BS. Hope you feeling better and got to watch some Olympics :).

I am first to respond to this.. YEAH!!!!!!

None at all.

For me, getting Launcher crashes in every single player game is a killer for me, as is the trees popping up in front of me as I fly. I also think a lot of work needs doing to the Fm and ai to make it feel realistic.

One more thing. The complex, somewhat realistic startup procedure you talk about is not complex at all, but that one doesn't bother me, I'm just saying.

Thank God that you find time in your busy schedule for your several daily postings here and at SimHateQ!

I don't think BD is belittling anyone. He is simply taking a pragmatic approach to the situation.

What many people don't want to accept - understandably - is that there appears to be either a serious lack of expertise among the devs or they are facing coding problems that are extremely difficult to overcome or a combination of both.

Well, this is how it is. We bought damaged goods but no amount of complaining is going to make things go faster if either of the above are true and MG certainly aren't going to throw a massive new dev team at this.

Its all very well some people saying "I've been programming or creating games for years" but they don't know the specific problems the devs have so all their expertise may be irrelevant.

Appointing a new project manager won't improve the devs skills or suddenly throw light on the coding solutions.

Bottom line? We're stuffed. Get over it. We may not like it but we have a choice, either stick with it and hope for solutions as soon as possible or ditch it and go away. My patience is wafer thin too but I know I can only wait and hope. Sometimes life is just like that.

Who is worrying? Ah, yes, those guys who constantly profess their disgust with the sim, yet cannot seem to tear themselves away from it... - It is a love story, I tell you! :D

You yourself had a bug...:-P:-P

actually, your judgement is the one flawed. an insignificant amount of money would still remain insignificant, or at least not too hurting/decent, even when multiplied with 5 or 10. like 1 euro. or 10. 50 euros are not actually an insignificant sum. and you might notice I've proposed the 5 lower figure too, for those not having so much money.

and in the end, using your own argument, its just 5 or 10 days of getting out and drinking some beer downtown.. isn't it?!!

I'm sure as a great lovers of this sim series you all are posing into, you can sacrifice a week of drinking for the better good of us all, wouldn't you?

I for one, even with all it's flaws and my not so big wallet, am willing to do that, because I can see it as an investment in the future of one of the most pleasant way I'm spending my free time (same as buying a new videocard for example), as long as MG stops this bullshit attitude towards us.

do you?!!

Cool it please gents. Ive deleted a couple of obnoxious personal attacks.. Please refrain or more infractions will flow.

Having browsed through this thread, I'm a little confused. Will this be a new beta patch? Or another version of the current beta patch? When are we likely to get an 'official', Steam hosted patch that non expert users such as myself can safely implement?

As the beta patch is only copy'n'paste even a 'non-expert' can safely implement it, as long as one is able to find and open a directory and has a free unpacker like i.e.7-zip installed.

Returning to original is even easier, just let steam verify your installation and voila, you are back were you started..

SimHateQ? I do not post there but I read there and find some good tips and materials in the main forum, which is not negative at all. They are created a subforum for the haters called 'extended' discussions, which I never visit, and the moderators are good to move all hate threads to there.

So I think SimHQ is very safe to visit.

Back down the salt-mine already!

Good to see you back so quickly and thanks for the update.

Septic.

Graet to hear you are back and fine!!!

Thanks for the update B6 much appreciated. Hopefully you cured your malady.;)

S!

I do have a point. We are not developers. We do this for free and other people may benefit from it. So their choices are to either help us, let us do our volunteer job, or "take it in the shorts" as you so eloquently put it.
Messing up the main medium of community communication is not letting us do our job, it's sabotaging it. Maybe some people do want to "take it in the shorts" and that's why they try to hinder us so much :grin:

This community understands everything... one and a half year after release...

Thank you and hoping you're are better ,here's to some good news soon.

Thank you for this great news, B6. We will get an awesome patch soon :)

What ironic, childish drivel.

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let us wait a little or lot longer.:!:

Glad you're feeling better, BlackSix. Looking forward to the next patch.

Any chance of an update today? Whether the patch is ready or not...

Good to know your better Black Six

He just gave you an update..........

Just for you...........he's better and with or without him the patch would have been released if it was ready.

Please could you guys actually take time to read these threads or use the search function.

:rolleyes:

+1,000,000 in my best Dr evil voice .... :!

I did read that earlier and however glad I am about the medical wellfare of BlackSix, I was looking for some kind of update with regards to the progress of the patch:)

They call it Extended Discussions, but you are only allowed to post in there if you hate CoD. SimHQ decided to be the cesspit where they dredge up the haters rightfully banned from this forum. Sad development for a site that used to be worthwhile to visit.

Does everyone feel the love?

If peeps have probs take them there, we have enough here as it is, don't we??

A place where people can vent till there little hearts are content keeping it all in one section and you call that 'bad' development...

Lmao

I've made it about 1 click easier for you lot....
This is now on the bottom of B6 first page update so you can errrr more quickly find latest info. :rolleyes:

Link to All Blacksix latest posts and updates.
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/search....nduser&u=25185

I agree with Frey. It might be considered a better development if it were a sealed section for hater members only but then I guess they would get bored of it pretty quickly because they wouldn't have anyone to troll. LoL ;)

Just to clarify Frey....You think SimHQ is a cesspit because any controversial posts about CLOD is confined to one tiny sub-forum? Just about every thread here boils down to the same back and forth and this is your paradise? I guess we can all make up our minds on why you think that way.

Lighten up guys! :D This is taking on too much of a serious tone and I don't want to see it get personal! ;) it is an update thread remember that.

Sorry PHAT. SimHQ is a great place and has more community spirit than most. Yeah, it has a couple of places set aside for bickering (PWEC, COD extended forum) but it is a great place for info and help with every sim under the sun. I see attacking another forum as a form of a "personal attack" so it gets me a little peeved and is why you had to hand me my first infraction here. Frey's hatred of SimHQ just comes from him being reprimanded for personally attacking others.

I have an update!

I was sick, on the road today!

Oh, that's two updates! :)

I don't see it like that, I see it that people post negative comments because they keep getting told the same things week in and week out. We get told they have fixed a major bug (last week it was 5 mins ago) and all the rest of the work has been carried out, but then the following week it never ever seems to go well and we are back to square one not Knowing what has happened. Nobody from the team makes any announcement about what has happened and people start to think they are just been taken for a ride. I have said it before and i'll say it till I am blue in the face, don't keep saying you are trying to push out a patch each week until you know for certain it works. Then you can tell everyone when you are going to release it - SIMPLES!!