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Tree_UK 06-20-2011 01:26 PM

Im not going to make any comments about the porthole until i see someones head in one.

NervousEnergy 06-20-2011 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisey (Post 299683)
My God, all this over a dropkick who thinks a port hole in a ship is a little out???
I find this absolutely astounding, and to go to the length of chasing up blue prints....words fail me

I'm pretty sure the whole porthole thing was a joke based on the now infamous 'cowl fasteners'.

Ploughman 06-20-2011 03:30 PM

Four candles.

Robert 06-20-2011 03:32 PM

I think many of you confuse venting with criticism. No one really cares about your venting and you get the appropriate response from it - crickets or a vacation. Since some can't even vent without being derogatory or insulting you receive the scorn you deserve.

What some are doing is equivalent to standing up on the table at a restaurant and yelling about how the cook sux, the decor isn't to your liking.... blah blah blah. You'd not act that way in real life - why do it here?

There are ways of expressing dissatisfaction without making yourself look like a tool. So it's not that 1C doesn't want or doesn't need criticism - it doesn't need people who exhibit tantrums that would embarrass a two year old.

But I don't expect those who fit this category to get it......

Baron 06-20-2011 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert (Post 299766)
I think many of you confuse venting with criticism. No one really cares about your venting and you get the appropriate response from it - crickets or a vacation. Since some can't even vent without being derogatory or insulting you receive the scorn you deserve.

What some are doing is equivalent to standing up on the table at a restaurant and yelling about how the cook sux, the decor isn't to your liking.... blah blah blah. You'd not act that way in real life - why do it here?

There are ways of expressing dissatisfaction without making yourself look like a tool. So it's not that 1C doesn't want or doesn't need criticism - it doesn't need people who exhibit tantrums that would embarrass a two year old.

But I don't expect those who fit this category to get it......


Mainly because there`s always a "but" in that kind of peoples reasoning.

robtek 06-20-2011 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert (Post 299766)
I think many of you confuse venting with criticism. No one really cares about your venting and you get the appropriate response from it - crickets or a vacation. Since some can't even vent without being derogatory or insulting you receive the scorn you deserve.

What some are doing is equivalent to standing up on the table at a restaurant and yelling about how the cook sux, the decor isn't to your liking.... blah blah blah. You'd not act that way in real life - why do it here?

There are ways of expressing dissatisfaction without making yourself look like a tool. So it's not that 1C doesn't want or doesn't need criticism - it doesn't need people who exhibit tantrums that would embarrass a two year old.

But I don't expect those who fit this category to get it......

THIS, is very quotable!!!!
1+

RE77ACTION 06-20-2011 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert (Post 299766)
I think many of you confuse venting with criticism. No one really cares about your venting and you get the appropriate response from it - crickets or a vacation. Since some can't even vent without being derogatory or insulting you receive the scorn you deserve.

What some are doing is equivalent to standing up on the table at a restaurant and yelling about how the cook sux, the decor isn't to your liking.... blah blah blah. You'd not act that way in real life - why do it here?

There are ways of expressing dissatisfaction without making yourself look like a tool. So it's not that 1C doesn't want or doesn't need criticism - it doesn't need people who exhibit tantrums that would embarrass a two year old.

But I don't expect those who fit this category to get it......

+1

Robert 06-20-2011 04:11 PM

To be fair.... I know I can be a tool too. I think we all can reach a point of dissatisfaction or reach a limit with certain aspects of the game or forum members.

But some are so consistent that you'd be surprised to hear something else out of their mouths/posts.

Have a good day, folks.

Strike 06-20-2011 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert (Post 299766)
I think many of you confuse venting with criticism. No one really cares about your venting and you get the appropriate response from it - crickets or a vacation. Since some can't even vent without being derogatory or insulting you receive the scorn you deserve.

What some are doing is equivalent to standing up on the table at a restaurant and yelling about how the cook sux, the decor isn't to your liking.... blah blah blah. You'd not act that way in real life - why do it here?

There are ways of expressing dissatisfaction without making yourself look like a tool. So it's not that 1C doesn't want or doesn't need criticism - it doesn't need people who exhibit tantrums that would embarrass a two year old.

But I don't expect those who fit this category to get it......

Perfectly said, this should almost be stickied. It's a true shame we need individuals here to remind us how horrible we're behaving. They taught us in the military, and I still like to practice it where it applies, that when giving critisism, you are supposed to point out what the problem is, how/why it effects you, and how it makes you feel. And do it with as few words as possible, not "decorating" the core message with tons of adjectives or feelings. Just say it as it is, plain and simple.

Ex:

There is a problem:

The German Prop-pitch lever indicator has been reversed. This is opposite compared to previous game versions, and contradicts the behaviour of all other planes. I find that when I fly the German planes this becomes confusing and feels odd.



There^ A few lines, it describes the problem, why it's wrong, and what it does to your gaming experience. There's no reason to toss in "F***ing POS game, wasted money, stupid devs, ubisoft s*cks elephant c**k", or the worst insult... "I'm going to wait for Birds of Steel/World of Planes.."

I wish some people realized that the forum is just a place where anyone can discuss matters on topic completely free of charge without having to travel to see the faces of the other people of the community. Equally, you are anonymous, and can trash-talk and behave however you like, because nobody can hear you, see you, or watch you act out your worst. Like Robert pointed out, if you stood up in a crowded meeting and yelled your opinions out loud, you'd probably be told to sit down and shut up, then if you wouldn't sit down and shut up, you'd be tossed out. At least your opinions and arguments would carry more weight, since you actually had the guts to stand up for your own opinion behind nothing but your own face. Here, they just litter the forums.

Tree_UK 06-20-2011 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert (Post 299766)
I think many of you confuse venting with criticism. No one really cares about your venting and you get the appropriate response from it - crickets or a vacation. Since some can't even vent without being derogatory or insulting you receive the scorn you deserve.

What some are doing is equivalent to standing up on the table at a restaurant and yelling about how the cook sux, the decor isn't to your liking.... blah blah blah. You'd not act that way in real life - why do it here?

There are ways of expressing dissatisfaction without making yourself look like a tool. So it's not that 1C doesn't want or doesn't need criticism - it doesn't need people who exhibit tantrums that would embarrass a two year old.

But I don't expect those who fit this category to get it......

Well I guess that all depends, if the chef tells you that the meal is going to be your best yet and you paid for it in advance but when it arrived the steak was good but the spuds weren't cooked and the vegatables were missing you would be a little bit miffed for sure, then you find out that you cannot get a refund but you should get your vegetables in the next year once the chef as worked out how to cook them, the spuds are someones eles's fault though because after the chef part cooked them the electric got cut off.

Ze-Jamz 06-20-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 299805)
Well I guess that all depends, if the chef tells you that the meal is going to be your best yet and you paid for it in advance but when it arrived the steak was good but the spuds weren't cooked and the vegatables were missing you would be a little bit miffed for sure, then you find out that you cannot get a refund but you should get your vegetables in the next year once the chef as worked out how to cook them, the spuds are someones eles's fault though because after the chef part cooked them the electric got cut off.

So you complain using the right channels and not by 'standing on the chair and yelling' which is what you WOULDNT do if you were in that situation, i think thats what was meant

Tree_UK 06-20-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz (Post 299807)
So you complain using the right channels and not by 'standing on the chair and yelling' which is what you WOULDNT do if you were in that situation, i think thats what was meant

I would be outside telling everyone going in to give it a miss.

bongodriver 06-20-2011 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 299808)
I would be outside telling everyone going in to give it a miss.

That's not nice.....why not just move on with your life?

Tree_UK 06-20-2011 05:02 PM

I dont want you to eat bad food me old bongo, we are still on food right?

Ivan Fooker 06-20-2011 05:17 PM

What a useless thread has this become since i last read it...means since page 10....:roll:;)

bongodriver 06-20-2011 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 299811)
I dont want you to eat bad food me old bongo, we are still on food right?

Food...whatever, perhaps it's my favourite restaurant and you are spoiling my family's night out, one man's 'crap' is another man's.......something nice.....sort of thing.

Pluto 06-20-2011 05:22 PM

ohoooh ! ! !
 
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Originally Posted by carguy_ (Post 299622)
And yet you couldn`t help but posting your bullshit. No life idiot!



Well it looks like you`re on the edge of your seat posting. Your input is not needed here. You`re probably a grown man that posts drivel on a video game forum. Congrats for your stupidity.

...edge of my seat? Not quite, but it`s interesting to see what happens if you poke a bit arround in a hive, hehe, ... thanks for the entertainment.

Hey loudmouth, let`s fight it out in the virtual sky once this sim works.
Let`s see if your flightskills are as big as your mouth!
:twisted:

Boogz 06-20-2011 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 299808)
I would be outside telling everyone going in to give it a miss.

And here you are, doing just that.

Problem is, by "saving" some now you just might deprive us all of a wonderful flight sim a year or two down the road.

Tree_UK 06-20-2011 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boogz (Post 299832)
And here you are, doing just that.

Problem is, by "saving" some now you just might deprive us all of a wonderful flight sim a year or two down the road.

This is a forum, not a bad restaurant?

carguy_ 06-20-2011 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pluto (Post 299819)
Hey loudmouth, let`s fight it out in the virtual sky once this sim works.
Let`s see if your flightskills are as big as your mouth!
:twisted:

My flightskills? That`s funny because I don`t have to prove anything. Over 500 sorties in VEF/VEF2/IOW/BW/BW2/VPF/VOW of experience is enough.

RE77ACTION 06-20-2011 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 299838)
This is a forum, not a bad restaurant?

Clearly you didn't get the point. It's not about food, but about real world behavior vs forum behavior and how those two often contradict (sadly enough or luckily enough when looking from the other side...).

Tigertooo 06-20-2011 08:10 PM

for me the tread can be closed again for some time, what a Polish chit chat inhere :evil:

Wandalen 06-20-2011 08:56 PM

Truly fun to read all the post where the users hit eachother in the head with quotas... :lol:

Thanks Louthier for the update , looking forward to play with the new warship.. stunning details :)

303_Tees 06-20-2011 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by luthier (Post 298590)
We’ve been pushing it out all day, but it’s just not coming out.

* A new warship!

Sorry to keep you waiting!

Thats what we need in air sim new warship no MP sound bug fix no FM, most important is so we get new warship!!!!
In next patch we will get new tanks and new ................. most realistic train.
No trees crash now when some one get on u tail u can run into forest like Robin Hood.But we have new warship.
No radio fix but we have new warship.
Shame

ps i was not complain before i was give u time for fixing because flysim market is so poor. But now when i see so u so happy because u made new WARSHIP i cant be quiet

kakkola 06-20-2011 10:20 PM

C`mon guys,we have to stop this!!!!
I`m one of the disappointed people in this forum,so i put the sim on the shelf until it will be fixed(is playable but i`m not really in to it now),i`m mostly an offline player,for sure i`ll want more maps but of course must be fix the optimization first!
I`ll be patient!!

MB_Avro_UK 06-20-2011 10:26 PM

:rolleyes:

Not everything will get fixed both in sequence and at the same time.

We have been given a FREE ship. That is good news.

Work continues elsewhere.

Patience....

ChicoMick 06-20-2011 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 303_Tees (Post 299908)
.....now when some one get on u tail u can run into forest like Robin Hood....


...sorry but that's really funny Lmao !!

KG26_Alpha 06-20-2011 10:59 PM

Ok

Seems there just no helping some of you lot.

Locked again.




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