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PE_Tihi 02-19-2011 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fafnir_6 (Post 226230)
To those of you who are complaining about the spits in 4.10/4.10.1, your best, only hope is to find a verifiable document from a relevant authority ... Submit these respectfully to DT and I'm sure you will see something come of it.

LOL! Our only hope?:) I am simply not going to fly the TD Spit anymore, neither the whole game soon, you see. A new one is coming out, don't you know? :) If you implying TD cancelled the revised Spit FM cause some of us here haven't submitted respectfully:) - well, then it s their work they have been doing harm to.
Should we, after collecting and sieving the data, respectfully make the FM for them, too?


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Originally Posted by Fafnir_6 (Post 226230)
I personally think (as do many here) that the 4.09 spit needed to be fixed (hence the "spitnoob" name-calling) and that DT has done a masterful job of it.
...

Cheers DT and thanks for another masterpiece,

Exactly what I have been talking about. A common one around, that s the attitude you obviously share with the TD; you both have no idea what may be wrong in the plane FM, but know it is too good to be true, and needs to be 'fixed'.

Who seeks, finds; so the NACA test of a Wright-Field hack has been found...In all probability the plane had a bent fuselage from a hard landing.

If your TD idols share the high and mighty stance of yours:), they 're heading for a hard landing, too. Even without them 'fixing' the FM's the game' s days are counted. Quite soon FB is going to become a private occasion flown by TD for the most part. That s why they have been given the FM's to play with.

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Originally Posted by Fafnir_6 (Post 226230)
P.S. Much about the content of upcoming DT patches can be revealed when a DT member posts here. I'd advise anyone with an interest in such things to PAY ATTENTION when someone like Viikate, FC99 or Caspar posts in these forums, the future will reveal itself (it also helps to be respectful and friendly towards our patchmakers). Il-2 4.11 is gonna rule .

..PAY ATTENTION .. someone like.. and the future will reveal itself.. Well, this needs no comment :) LOL!

KG26_Alpha 02-19-2011 11:16 PM

Ok everyone.

Enough is enough regarding the Spit whining.

Its been going on for too long you need to move on.

Thanks.

PE_Tihi 02-19-2011 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 226285)
Ok everyone.

Enough is enough regarding the Spit whining.

Its been going on for too long you need to move on.

Thanks.

If you too calling me a whiner, take care about the language you are using with me, because I do the same for you. Dogs whine, you 'll surely know. And if you find it boring, you do not have to read it.

Tempest123 02-20-2011 12:48 AM

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...opinions delivered with a exasperating sense of melodrama and an irritatingly belittling attitude towards the guys at Team Diadalos - you win no friends and thusly make any chance that your grievances might be even investigated, let alone fixed, marginal at best.
+1

...these silly arrogant posts aren't doing anything except annoying the c**p out of everyone. No one wants to join a discussion where their opinion will be belittled. I like FM debates, I even started one! But not ones with pointless pissing contests, I don't need to feel like I'm back in junior high.

Rant over!

JtD 02-20-2011 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MD_Titus (Post 226175)
JtD - as for neutral trim point being settable in game, how would i go about doing this, or do you just mean dialing in trim for straight and level and that is the neutral point?

Yes, that's what I just mean. It was poor wording on my part, sorry.

Qpassa 02-20-2011 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PE_Tihi (Post 226294)
If you too calling me a whiner, take care about the language you are using with me, because I do the same for you. Dogs whine, you 'll surely know. And if you find it boring, you do not have to read it.

He has to do it, he is a moderator :grin:

PE_Tihi 02-20-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Qpassa (Post 226349)
He has to do it, he is a moderator :grin:

Exactly a moderator should not allow himself to address people in that manner.

robtek 02-20-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PE_Tihi (Post 226353)
Exactly a moderator should not allow himself to address people in that manner.

The only problem is that YOU associate whining with calling you a dog.
Nobody else does!
Whining in online foren is associated with demanding changes because of a percieved disadvantages without proven facts.
That happens pretty often and calling your posting "whining" is just a description and no personal slight.

PE_Tihi 02-20-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by robtek (Post 226358)
The only problem is that YOU associate whining with calling you a dog.
Nobody else does!
Whining in online foren is associated with demanding changes because of a percieved disadvantages without proven facts.
That happens pretty often and calling your posting "whining" is just a description and no personal slight.


I do not write very often in the forums, and may lack the habits of expression here. In this case I really do not regret it; the constant usage has made people forget the really quite insulting meaning of this expression. Moreover, the people tend to forget restraint when writing online in many other cases, too.
This forum here is certainly far from being a bad example of the said, but you ll probably find much less restraint on a forum, than in an eye to eye conversation.

Blaubaer 02-20-2011 02:30 PM

Lightypes 1 to 4 at home bases
 
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Originally Posted by Blaubaer (Post 225690)
Hi,

since I am using v4.10.1 in my df-missions neutral runway and other lights (lightype 1 - 4) inside the homebase radius behave as they were blue or red: they lit only, if requested.
Is it a (known) bug?
Has somebody an idea for fixing that?

Regards,
der Blaubär

Nobody can confirm that or can give a hint for a workaround?

Inbetween I can to state more precisely: all lightypes 1 - 4 with the color blue, red or none inside a home base radius act as they had the color of the home base. So they don't light up until the lightening is requested. - Permanently lit runway lights are no longer passible.
The docs say, that this behavior requires an identity of lighttype and home base color.

Regards,
der Blaubaer

JtD 02-20-2011 03:08 PM

I think this is a side effect of having neutral objects take the home base colour in general - as it was before 4.10. With 4.10 there was a problem with neutral AAA firing at anyone spawning because it did not take home base colour. The only workaround I know is placing the airfield fires, which will always burn.

KG26_Alpha 02-20-2011 04:36 PM

Yes neutral doesn't mean they are passive but active, so they react to all sides.



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