1st:sorry for my bad english

2nd: The shell comes from the barrell rolling on his own axis.all modern guns (ww1-ww2 included) have this type of barrell.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1l-7rUoBD8...un_Rifling.jpg

3rd: the rolling smoke tracer is the consecuence of the fast cooling of the shell (high altitude) plus the "2nd point"

Cowl Flaps - key mapping

I hope the cf are not mapped again to a single key, for most ppl only use two positions; open or closed.

I would really welcome if they were mapped to an axis, or alternatively, you can choose the positions you use, and toggle between then.

Like:

Pos1: X
Pos2:
Pos3:
Pos4:
Pos5:
Pos6: X

Toggle: X

so you could toggle between 1 and 6 with only one key.

Phil, he was taking the p*ss ;)


OFF TOPIC

When I read this complete ignorance it just makes me wish we (Britain) hadn't sent out the BEF in the first place when Hitler invaded Poland.

It beggars belief that some Poles seem to think that Britain and her allies was obliged to take on the Soviets in 1945 and free up Poland, like we could, needed to or wanted to anyway. We (Britain) bankrupted ourselves and let go of an Empire in order to fight Germany, sacrificing many people from the Commonwealth in the process. But the most galling of all is the contempt and disrespect you show those who died fighting for this. A thoroughly twisted and obtuse perspective you have He111.


OFF TOPIC

I believe that there was a consensus of opinion on two other threads that much of the pollution of the previous updates has been us (and I include myself here) reacting to silly, repeat, rude, whatever questions.

Let's please show some respect for Oleg and let him decide what is an appropriate question to answer, or if it has already been asked just post a link (like he asked us to do) or Oleg's answer and save the judgment. If we feel the poster is being rude or obnoxious, let's just report the post to the admin and let it go.

If we'll police ourselves, then we won't need to be policed.

Just my $.02

Here are some interesting shots of battle damage consistent with small caliber weapons like the .303.
I believe most of these are from the BoB period.
No large sections of skin blown away, just lots of smallish holes/tears and chipped paint.
Can anyone add to these please?

OFF TOPIC

A few more....

Re: the GUI, we definitely shouldn't have an old school one, since this sim will hopefully branch out to other periods. This cool timeless GUI looks just right.

Not sure if this has been asked before:

Oleg
IL2 had 3 zoom positions from inside the cockpit: Wide, Normal & Gun.
Will SoW have more options or allow variable adjustment, which would be useful for those with multiple or large displays?
Thanks

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This Do 17 Z of 9/KG3 managed to return to base with dozens of bullet holes.


5K+CT
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/KG3.jpg


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Riiiight. +1 for a US spelling version for the US people.

It's not like many of them have an easy time already with their own spelling, let alone an Oxford-English spelling. Fortunately there are dictionary extensions for Firefox and other browsers to ease their spelling when typing in a browser.

Thanks Rodolphe! Very nice picture indeed. That's the clearest damage shot I've seen so far. Wonder if the larger holes were caused by larger caliber rounds or .303s striking at an angle?

Cheers

-1 for a US spelling version. I don't think we should ask the developers to have to make adjustments for every country. It's a little desperate when you start to rely on fighting games to educate your country.

Nice pictures of battle damage. I guess the bigger holes do indeed come from the projectiles striking at an angle as Sutts says.

You can see that they are not so round but elliptical in shape, indicative of a line of travel more or less parallel to the fuselage at the time of impact which results in "dragging" more of the fuselage skin along with the bullet as it penetrates.

Perfectly round holes on the other hand would be due to impact at a near 90 degree angle to the fuselage.

Finally, their appearance could also be slightly affected by the camera's viewpoint/orientation in relation to them when taking the picture.

Always nice to go on a collective hunt for the small details :grin:

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;)

Similar view of the 5K+CT Flugzeug.
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/KG3a.jpg





Type of damage cause by Flak on a different Dornier (calibre unknown).

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Do17Damage.jpg






On May 17th 1940, this Do 17 of 5/KG 76 was damaged by the explosion of an ammunition truck during a low level attack of a French vehicles column.

F1+HN

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39...-17-Damage.jpg

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Do17Damage1.jpg

Note the mooring

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Do17Damage2.jpg


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love the ocean wake

Noob question - What type of allied plane is that with the four gun touret on its back?

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Boulton Paul Defiant


See around 2'15" and 3'20".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce9My4IKydo

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G1+FR is the same He 111 as shown on the first picture present by Sutts
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=211




This aircraft was shot down on the August 16th raid to Feltham.
Flight Lieutenant Boyd of No. 602 Squadron put between 300 and 400 bullets holes in the bomber before it crashed at High Salvington, Sussex.

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/G1FR.jpg



An innocent victim of the war !
The Corporal (right) and Private (left) are carrying ammunition drums "Doppeltrommel" for the MG15.

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/G1FR1.jpg


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Nice looking entry damage shots posted here!...it only makes me wonder if exit holes are modeled in SOW, which would be very cool.:grin:

looks way cool.
even my kids are excited
thanks oleg.

I'll go with that as long as when they do Pearl Harbour and the Pacific it's all in Queens English ;)

After looking at the shots of the menus i am very impressed with the depth of this game.
One criticism i have heard made about IL2 (from people i have introduced it to) is that the level of complexity can be overwhelming at first. It can be difficult to get people to persevere to appreciate what it can offer.
I worry that the same problem will be apparent in SOW- even more so.
I trust that Oleg's crew have figured out how to cater for noobs and get them hooked, so they can then push their limits and increase their knowledge incrementally.

I like the looks of those Do-17s. I hope they become flyable.

+1 I definitely agree.

Fafnir_6

There was a very well respected TV show in Denmark (Trollspegeln) that did a review of a good flight sim a few years ago; I'm pretty sure it was the Original Il2. They are usually very good with their reviews, but of this flight sim they said it was terrible...because the planes kept crashing all the time, or fell out of the sky!

You need to cradle the noobs.

Thanks again for the shots Rodolphe, you're a mine of information.
From the story in the pictures, shooting down a bomber with .303s called for real accuracy (or very good luck). No great chunks flying off or huge holes appearing. Absolutely essential to get those rounds into some essential pipeline, cable or component.

This is where SoW is going to shine. With all those essential components modelled with their accurate hit boxes, this is going to test the accuracy of the best of us.

Brilliant stuff.:grin:

Looking back through some old SoW shots, I found this one which matches pretty accurately the kind of .303 damage we're seeing in the period photos.

I hope the big hole was caused by flak or perhaps an exploding oxygen cylinder.

Maybe in a future patch we could see the elongated holes too where the round strikes at an angle. All in good time. LOL

Badly beaten:

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/316...52222F25EC092C

http://www.nzetc.org/etexts/WH2-1RAF/WH2-1RAF016a.jpg

Tough old bird

exactly you have your "defaults" that you set once, then you can go into each plane and customize

as an example, if you're a Nvidia user it would be like your graphic settings in the Nvidia control panel, you set your default settings but then you can select the games you have installed on your computer (games=planes in this analogy), for each option you can choose "use default" or set a customization.

unfortunately this idea will probably go unnoticed and mapping keys will continue to be a monumental task, one of my biggest gripes with PC gaming.

PLEASE READ OLEG, IF YOU NEED TRANSLATION ASK LUTHIER

c'mon bro you couldn't have just gone with a different name?

What are you raving about toss-pot? It was all in the doco, at the end of the war when all the allies marched in Victory celebrations, the Poles were not allowed to, thanks to Churchill who was scared of annoying the soviets. It's very sad that the Poles proved themselves more than adequate in the BOB but few are willing to acknowledge that! You have a serious attitude problem.

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Will pilots bailing out still be trying their sky diving skills as in the screen shot or will they do as they actually did and tumble from the aircraft?
Looking fantastic by the way.
I'll be in the line up to buy as soon as it is released.
cheers,
Ibis.

Thanks Setback, another cracking shot I've never seen before. Just shows how ineffective hitting the rear fuselage can prove to be.

I wonder how easy it was to set the wing tanks ablaze in the He 111? I recently read a wartime report somewhere (could have been posted here) stating that something like 1 in 10 .303 incendiary rounds would ignite a self sealing fuel tank. I'd always believed previously that an HE round was required to open a hole up in the tank and expose the fuel to the air to allow ignition. Maybe the tanks took a few minutes to seal allowing some fuel to be exposed to the incendiary effects?

Interesting stuff.

Looks like the He-111 has painted damage on its wings.
Hopefully this will not be in final because painted damage is from the last century and you've already shown that "real" damage is possible.

Shots like these really go to show the necessity of shooting at convergence when your using low penetration rounds like the .303.

Although it is obvious that enough systems were damaged to bring the plane down, 700 rounds is about 29% of a spitfires 2400 round loadout (I think its 300 rounds per gun in the Mk1A)

With my average hit% at about *cough*5%*cough* it would take me a lot of trips to bring down a single bomber.

Cheers!

They are Fiat Br.20s mate. It's hard to tell in this attachment (see original post instead) but these planes have a yellow stripe around the fuselage, and the rudders are not at the stabilizer tips, but towards the middle, I think (leftmost aircraft).

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachm...0&d=1290177753

http://en.valka.cz/files/fiat_br_20_m.gif

The resemblance is too close...

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If the Gunner concludes to exit his flying Defiant through the bottom hatch, the Pilot need to lower the landing gear as this configuration automatically retracts the rear VHF aerial mast into the aero plane belly.
That done the mast won't spear the Gunner as he, after moving the aerial wire aside, escapes through the bottom hatch, . ;)
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A similar system on the Blackburn Roc.

http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dell/Roc1.JPG



Anecdotal Roc ;)

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Looks like the message got across, even without a sarcasm smiley. :)

:D IIRC locations are exempt from spelling corrections, in such cases. ;)

In my 'neighbourhood' we do have quite a few cities that have their own name in French/German/Dutch:
Bastogne / Bastenach / Bastenaken
Liege / Luttich / Luik
Aix-Chapelle / Aachen / Aken

Two language names are much more common.

How tf do you know if it's a texture overlay or indeed calculate?
You may not like the apearance, no problem with that.

but this:

...is the fastest way to turn this thread into another flame war.
last century": What do you know about PC in the last century?
You were 6.
Also, the comparison is sooooo not needed!
You can dislike it, no prob - but you dont have to unload additional ordnance just to make sure we know you really dont like it.

And last but not least: Honestly I don't know if its possible at all.
Just think of two shoot up B29 plus a few P47, all of them can take a crapload of damage.
Then there are another 30 or so online players, all with less to none damage at all.
I have serious doubts even top-end pc could handle all this without turning it into a slideshow.

What is this doco you refer to? And who doesn't recognise how good the Poles were in the BoB - they were among the best pilots with the most experience, and anyone in Britain who knows anything about the war is aware of that (have you seen the film BoB?).

What exactly are you suggesting that Churchill did wrong?

The RAF did some tests in 1940 to see why they were failing to down bombers.

The problem was that the small bullets fired by the RAF's MGs could not carry enough incendiary or explosive to guarantee success, and also had insufficient penetration to defeat armour reliably.

Ground tests carried out by the British, firing at an old Bristol Blenheim from 180 m to the rear with various British and German guns and ammunition, revealed that the .303 incendiary B Mk VI bullets would set light to a Blenheim wing tank with only one hit in five; during the Battle only one or two of the eight guns were normally loaded with this ammunition. Other .303 and 7.92 mm incendiaries were only half as effective.

Both German and British armour-piercing rounds could penetrate up to 12 mm of armour plate if fired directly at it from 180 m, most of the bullets were deflected or tumbled by first passing through the fuselage skin or structure. As a consequence, only a quarter to a third of the bullets reached the Blenheim's 4 mm-thick armour plate at all, and very few penetrated it.

There are loads of reports of German bombers comming home with over 200 bullet holes. The 8 x .303 were more effective against fighters.

Not wanting to inflame yet another slanging match, but I saw the documentary. It was part of a series showing the importance of the participation of foreign nationals in many of Britain's conflicts throughout history. Quite well done and informative.

It discussed the diplomatic embarrassment of Churchill, having commited in 1940 to restoring all European borders and governments, being unable to do so in the case of the subsequent 'Eastern Bloc' including Poland.
He's correct in that the Poles were not allowed to participate in the Victory marches, in spite of their outstanding contribution to the overall victory.
A sad circumstance brought about by diplomatic failures. I don't think He111 suggested that the Cold War should have been warmed up a bit, just that it was sad about the ignoring of the Poles at the parades.

I also don't think anyone with any knowledge of WWII worth speaking of would either underestimate or belittle the Poles from any perspective.

you're from where again?

Ah, you mean the Poles living in Britain. It's a bit of an understatement that the poles got a bad deal in general, but I think complaining about Churchill is just a bit silly. He didn't have to declare war on Germany at all, he could have easily remained neutral, along with a bundle of other European nations. It would have been better for the British people (less death, less destruction, less hardship, more money). It's difficlut to overstate how stupid British diplomats were following the war, footing such a large bill for it all.

Well, actually it wasn't Churchill who declared war, it was Chamberlain, although Churchill had advocated gearing up for action since before the re-militarisation of the Rhineland.
I'd say the Allied diplomats were stymied, rather than stupid, but you're certainly correct about us 'footing the bill'.
On the other hand 'victory at all costs, no matter how long and hard the road may be' may have included the financial cost, which of course bankrupted the Empire Churchill loved so much. A price he was prepared to pay to see the downfall of 'a monstrous tyranny, never surpassed in the dark and lamentable catalogue of human crime'.
Thinking about the society we now 'enjoy', I often wonder what he'd think of it.:)

Limboland. ;) Het zuid-oosten van Limburg.

LOL!, redelijk kleine wereld dan als je bedenkt dat ik in zuidwest limboland zit. :)

:cool:

zo zo,een hele kleine wereld,en ik westen

Komt er niemand uit Friesland?;)

Ich freue mich so abzuschießen Deutschen in SOWBOB. BOB wird über einen Tag und Hitler Übergabe am nächsten Morgen.

autotranslators suck. :grin:

But they get the poin across ....

Please can we talk about SoW?

Ik kom uit Zeeland ;)

En ik er tussen in .....

Bastenaken? Ik hou het bij Bastonge..

Nice update btw, finally the 200 programmable functions on the sticks will be used. And the load/save function for the axis functions.

What's with the impeller?

http://www.zaragoza-adminfincas-abogados.com/keys.jpg
http://www.eagle-engraving.com/axes.jpg

Jezus, die nederlanders zijn nog in de meerderheid hier... 's-Hertogenbosch dan?
:mrgreen:

Ok, that was some dutch OT, so... back to the studio.;)

@ Romanator21: man, you sure have attention to detail regarding that yellow fuselage band.

Are the airfields going to take on relistic damage from bombs etc. making it very it difficult to take off? If so this will make the real "Battle Of Britain" missions a lot more fun.

From the posts in the link it seems that the lower exit route was more difficult to use. If the plane is flipped over on take off or landing though, it would become essential.

les autotraducteurs sucent. :-)

bien entendu

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Back translation:

'Thems automatised translator thingamajigs aren't half awful.'

It would be quite difficult to get this right. In IL2 (closed cockpit) a pilot can't look around the field properly before take-off, meaning they can't see where the craters are.

I think something like this would happen.

I just found a pretty informative map

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ritain_map.svg

That is a pretty interesting map. Amazing to see that radar could see pretty much everything over the French coast.

Thanks, I couldn't have replied better myself. Funny, one agreeing post was deleted then the rant? what's going on?

BTW, those Defiant kill shots, experienced 109 pilots attacked from 6 oclock low or head on. I hope the AI has this understanding, ie don't attack from 6 oclock high. To counter that, I hope the Defiant AI banks left or right giving the gunner full view of anything below.

another interesting point, 264 sqn developed interesting tactics to defend against 109s. I think it was a descending spiral or defensive circle. I hope the AI can do that as well! .. please! :grin:

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I should hope so, it took us long enough to compile it from Gaelic, Roman, Saxon, Norman, French, various Scandinavian/Viking and German. Oh, and the original "Uggg". And what do you guys do? Mess it up ! :)

When talking about craters in another recent thread, mr. Maddox himself said that taxing over them does cause damage.

I don't know how this is calculated and how long the craters will persist (eg in a multiplayer scenario, or if damage carries over even in the single player campaign), but the fact that they can ruin your day has been pretty much confirmed. According to mr Maddox, that same pic of the damaged hurricane with the collapsed main gear that you posted was due to taxing over a crater.

Cheers :grin:

Sorry I'm late to the party:

Wohooo, Daffy! Bloody neat pictures of it too!

Some really good maps:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...2Epi-c007a.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ap-cropped.gif

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...UK-RAF-I-5.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...back/map01.jpg

The moment you called me a tosspot is the moment you proved your lack of knowledge for your argument.

You have a massive chip on your shoulder, you make yourself look an idiot comfortably.

Precisely, which is what angers me so much about idiotic viewpoints like He111 expressed. The cost to the UK to fight Germany was a massive price, and I'm not talking about money alone. When I look back on it after hearing these sorts of comments a part of me just asks why we just didn't bother and let Hitler cut up Poland for good while we made hay from it all instead. Of course there was so much evil going on that would've been morally contemptible so not withstanding the political position of a strong German empire we did what was right - but it's not enough for some Poles, they are bitter about why we didn't do anything about Stalins massive army Ultimately Poland was simply a weak nation that we stood by as best we could. Maybe if the Poland weren't so keen on handing themselves a Baltic port after WW1 and carving Germany in two and upsetting their other neighbours by taking their territory from 1918-21 then perhaps they would've been bypassed in the first place.

Hardly. In the eyes of many germans Poland was simply a ... pardon the term ... bastard state which existed solely by the grace of the Entente and which contained areas many germans considered ur-german. And this wasn't just the opinion of the right-wing extremists but many conservative and even center to left-leaning ones. Or should I remind you that it was the Entente who declared that Upper Silesia was to be given to Poland despite a 59,4% pro-german vote in a plebiscite in 1922 (a remarkable vote given that many non-german nationals seem to have voted for Germany, too)?

While all of that is probably fine (meaning I'm not up enough on the history to question it), what did get in Churchill's craw as I understand it, was having to send the Poles who survived fighting for us in the BoB home to Stalin's tender mercies, and often life in Gulags for fighting for "the enemy". I don't know what the numbers are, but that isn't something I'm happy about, if it happened to one that's one too many.

From memory: I5 processors, 2 GB RAM (the minimum is 3) and an nvidia GTX 460.
The poor fps in some of the videos was due to memory loss as a consequence of the insubstantial RAM. I'm sure there was a picture posted somewhere of the complete specs, but I can't find it ATM...

Cheers Mick, you're always so helpful ;)

... and this was my very first post here ... only for you mate ...!!

Hehe :D thanks mate.


-I'm wondering; when the Defiants first entered the Battle, the 109's mistook them for Hurricanes which proved costly when they were met with the rear gun-turret. Once they realised what the Defiant was, the Luftwaffe pilots knew that head-on attacks would easily down the defiants, without the 109's meeting any return fire.
Oleg has said how the AI will have some form of experience (you could be flying against a veteran or a rookie) so I'm wondering if there's a chance the AI could make similar mistakes in the game? Clearly in the shots posted, the 109's have attacked from the rear. (although of course we've only seen a glimpse of the battle)
I know the AI is a very complex thing, but I'm just curious whether somthing like this is tangible for SoW...?

Thankyou ;)

FFS, can we please stay on topic for once in our lives? This topic is to discuss the latest dev update for SoW, not about Polish-British relations during the war. If it's that important of a topic to discuss, then create a new thread and discuss it there.

As much as I am a fan of realism, tonight I am in LaLa land (So please indulge me)
I can't stand the thought of having to put in hundreds of rifle rounds into a Nazi machine only to do some interior redecorating. These wonderful historical pictures make me mad just looking at them. I want to have the Deep satisfaction of seeing the wings sheer off, huge explosions, fireballs and mayhem.

All these fantastic screenshots are really getting my blood up...
I want to customize my spit into a pimped out hell machine, Instead of my 8 .303's I want 8 Vulcan Gatling guns ( Yeah, thats right, 48 barrels of screaming allied death):twisted:

Now before all you guys get all like, he's soooo unreasonable, I am prepared to compromise... The Vulcan's might be asking a wee bit too much, so to show you that I am a totally reasonable psychotic, I am prepared to settle for 8 of those cute little Cobra Gatling 3 barrel 20mm numbers.:-) I don't think thats asking too much.



Lets see if those swarms of He-111's can get passed 24000 rounds per minute of HE cannon shells - Welcome to England Bitches You're cleared for immediate landing at your nearest convenient hedgerow.

Thanks, rant over - La La land is a great place to be ...
This is what happens when you watch "hottub Time Machine"
and then read the weekly updates...

I hope you're just drunk.

But know you mention it, a few rapid fire Bk3.7 in FW190 would be cool to have, those B17 are pita to shoot down. lol

What idiotic viewpoints? that Poland should have been allowed to march in the Victory parade? or that Osprey is a IL2 troll who thinks he knows better than anyones else even when he misinterprets posts? Anyway it wasn't my viewpoint, it was the view of the documentary, which i accepted as accurate. Although i should have realised Osprey knows more about WW2 than any documentary maker! :-P

The fact that the decided borders were enough to cause problems later on is what matters. I think you agree anyway, you are also saying that the inhabitants didn't want it, but since they where on the losing side then they don't get to decide anyway, especially by opinion polls conducted years after the borders are drawn.

I would have though the corridor to the coast was more of a thorn to Germany than former Austrian territories in the south though.

I simply reacted to your post declaring that Poland was betrayed by her Allies after Polish pilots excelled in the BoB. You cited no reference to a TV program nor mentioned anything to do with a victory parade.

And I do get rather tired of this fallacy that somehow Polish pilots were way better than all of the other nations in the BoB. Or is it years of line shooting on their behalf that has distorted the facts of the matter, or are they some sort of master race?

Just as a reminder here's what you wrote:
Sorry Luke, I just feel like a good argument this weekend :)

I feel bad for that poor little rabbit :(

Well the stories told say they just seriously hated the Germans because of what had happened to their country and did not see the air war as a "chivalrous" battle. They fought ruthlessly, took huge personal risks and had little regard for their own safety, often disobeyed orders to get a kill, pursued any damaged aircraft relentlessly making sure they were destroyed, showed no mercy. They were not after glory they just wanted to kill as many Germans as possible.

How true those stories are, who can tell these days.

Not entirely a fallacy. The Poles, along with Czechoslovaks, made a significant contribution to the BoB:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...n_contribution

This contribution is well documented, in numerous reliable sources.

Its also worth pointing out that the Luftwaffe suffered 258 aircraft destroyed in Poland with an additional 263 damaged of which 60% were unrecoverable.

Roughly Luftwaffe 420 aircraft lost in the invasion of Poland.

Whilst not huge losses compared to the 1887 lost in the Battle of Britain that is still pretty impressive for an air force whose front-line fighter was the PZL P11C.

La la land or not, you do raise the point, inadvertently perhaps, that the new series will be openly moddable to a great extent.

A sufficiently motivated individual or group could make jet-powered flying out-houses if they wanted to. The scope is wide open for outright fantasy mods. Whatever you can imagine. Flying cars, Snoopy and the Red Barron, X-wings and Tie-fighters, UFO's, laser-firing rocket-powered bi-planes, cartoon planes shooting marshmallows at witches on broomsticks, you name it.

It seems most of us, most of the time, are so wrapped up in our preferred range of interests we forget the potential mods and products that could be spun out of what Oleg and his team are putting together here.

I wouldn't play them myself, but I think it'd be great to see sales of the overall series increased through projects like that. Pure arcade xxxx, or outright kids stuff aimed literally at four year olds. Bring it on.

No need for it to interfere with the sort of stuff we're into here, and it can only be good if it increases overall sales of the base product or engine.

Anyway, just sayin.

foreign airmen
 

Thank you for reminding of czechoslovakian assistance, I was really thinking that nobody will mention it. Btw, in the polish 303. were some czech fighters as well...

If somebody is more interested in informations about czech airmen in RAF,here is a fine web
http://www.rogerdarlington.me.uk/czechsinraf.html

As a czech, I would like to know...it will be possible to fly in foreign (czech propably) squadron:)? If not...are you going to at least include somehow aspect of foreign airmen?...It could be used by promotion of game in other countries:)
Regards and sorry for my english

This is a good job !! but here it seems that we lost insim 3D viewer witch was great to see skins of 3D work instead of entering inside a mission ( loading time )
With IL2 3D viewer when you choose an aircraft it's easy and fast to see all the planes.. but the way it is in Storm of War , look very painful for Skins maker and modders..

Is there any other way to see controlled rotating models with out going into a mission ?
Thanks.

You mean the rotating aircraft viewer in the arming screen where we also select skins, right? Very good question, nicely spotted.

On the other hand, SoW seems to have really fast loading times. Just seeing how fast those below-specs machines at igromir went from the menu to loading up the game, i was very pleased.

Not to mean that an ingame 3d viewer that only loads the aircraft and not the entire map is undesirable, but even if it's missing from the first version we might be able to manage with firing up a QMB mission to check out the skins, until it's included in a patch.

Some of you're taking it just too personal, I guess :rolleyes:

Welcome to England Bitches, You're cleared for immediate landing at your nearest convenient hedgerow.

LOL! :grin:

It made me laugh, anyway.....That's the Spirit Bonny lad! :grin: Think someones been raiding the 'Babycham' cupboard. :-P