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Riceball 11-29-2009 12:12 PM

Yep. No major bugs in my 360 version.

dazz1971 11-29-2009 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by House MD 221B (Post 123694)
with you 100% Daz, gutting :)

i thought you might
i know you loved playing the original as much as i did and you defended it as much as me that hurt the most i mean they lied about the game to the very ppl that brought the game on day of release and who had fought for its honor (sort of) and then to find out everything they had promised misled you in trailers and promo vids was lies !!

dont know about you but i felt a complete twonker afterwards :evil:



i dont really understand the whole flashpoint thing at all i mean codies other games are all great ???

House MD 221B 11-29-2009 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazz1971 (Post 123792)
i thought you might
i know you loved playing the original as much as i did and you defended it as much as me that hurt the most i mean they lied about the game to the very ppl that brought the game on day of release and who had fought for its honor (sort of) and then to find out everything they had promised misled you in trailers and promo vids was lies !!

dont know about you but i felt a complete twonker afterwards :evil:



i dont really understand the whole flashpoint thing at all i mean codies other games are all great ???


Precisely, also none of us thought ANYONE could get it THAT wrong! I mean, it's like nobody played the multilayer before the release, even Stevie Wonder would have seen THOSE bugs! Single player was pretty good though, just the multiplater that let it down. Same with IL-2, single player was ok apart from P51 stuff, I LOVED it, it's just again, QA of multilayer was non existent, unless they got Ray Charles to do it.

dazz1971 11-29-2009 04:02 PM

LMAO I can see it now Ray and Stevie in a room beta testing flashpoint

SW:"hello is it me your shooting at"
RC: "hit the road jack"
:grin::grin::grin:

House MD 221B 11-29-2009 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazz1971 (Post 123814)
LMAO I can see it now Ray and Stevie in a room beta testing flashpoint

SW:"hello is it me your shooting at"
RC: "hit the road jack"
:grin::grin::grin:

haaaaaa!!!! classic :D

InfiniteStates 11-30-2009 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by House MD 221B (Post 123813)
...QA of multilayer was non existent, unless they got Ray Charles to do it.

It's not QA's job to report design problems, although they can make suggestions (which can obviously be ignored). QA are there to discover bugs, of which there aren't many. All the common issues cited on this forum are design issues, not bugs.

House MD 221B 11-30-2009 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfiniteStates (Post 123904)
It's not QA's job to report design problems, although they can make suggestions (which can obviously be ignored). QA are there to discover bugs, of which there aren't many. All the common issues cited on this forum are design issues, not bugs.

incorrect, there are many of both, including the poor multi-player coding. But I'm not going to discuss this with you, because you blindly believe that its amazing, so if you reply to this I shall not indulge you in another boring conversation where you disagree with me. Largely Daz and I were discussing Operation Flashpoint 2 anyway.

InfiniteStates 11-30-2009 01:14 AM

Yeah put words in my mouth then run away. Real mature. I don't deny BoP has problems at all, I just maintain that the game is playable and fun inspite of them. But learn to differentiate between a bad design decisions and software faults. They are very different.

"Blindly"? Based off many weeks of solid play? OK.

Flashpoint is horrendously buggy though.

EDIT: and don't try to side step your bullshit statement with that lie - what I quoted was very much to do with BoP:
Quote:

Originally Posted by House MD 221B (Post 123813)
Same with IL-2, single player was ok apart from P51 stuff, I LOVED it, it's just again, QA of multilayer was non existent, unless they got Ray Charles to do it.


Shadowcorp 11-30-2009 09:41 AM

QA is time consuming
 
QA work is a slow process especially in multiplayer where the variables many and can be very hard to replicate.
Variables which include
1 upload/download speed of the various players
2 the various combinations of aircraft being used
3 the various set ups of levels e.g weather time of day
4 number of players
5 stability of network/lan being played across (steam, live, psn)

Then there is all the player actions (which in a 3d environment is alot) in conjuction with those list above; that cause a bug to occur, some bugs maybe be one time bugs that cannot be replicated and are in part due to local conditions on the device in question.
Others are repeat bugs and need to be exactly replicate two or three time to confirm their existence the they get sent to the programmers to be fixed

Understand the process before you whine. They are releasing a fix so they have been working on the probelms where other companies wouldn't have bothered

dazz1971 12-01-2009 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazz1971 (Post 123792)
i thought you might
i know you loved playing the original as much as i did and you defended it as much as me that hurt the most i mean they lied about the game to the very ppl that brought the game on day of release and who had fought for its honor (sort of) and then to find out everything they had promised misled you in trailers and promo vids was lies !!

dont know about you but i felt a complete twonker afterwards :evil:



i dont really understand the whole flashpoint thing at all i mean codies other games are all great ???


infinatestates you might want to read this post again cause i am deffo talking about ofdr 100% and so was house in his reply and comment about ray charles maybe you should learn to read first and type second ??

InfiniteStates 12-01-2009 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazz1971 (Post 124218)
infinatestates you might want to read this post again cause i am deffo talking about ofdr 100% and so was house in his reply and comment about ray charles maybe you should learn to read first and type second ??

Quote:

Originally Posted by House MD 221B (Post 123813)
Same with IL-2, single player was ok apart from P51 stuff, I LOVED it, it's just again, QA of multilayer was non existent, unless they got Ray Charles to do it.

That, to me, quite clearly is a statement of belief that the QA for BoP's multiplayer was non-existent.

I don't deny you were talking about Flashpoint - I even agreed it's buggy as hell. I weighed in on the BoP/QA comment. How about you learn to read (and type)? Also, then see if you fancy shrugging off being called a "boring liar" (which I'm paraphrasing) without having your nose put out of joint.

IiI GUNNY IiI 12-01-2009 02:44 PM

Jerk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by InfiniteStates (Post 123916)
Yeah put words in my mouth then run away. Real mature. I don't deny BoP has problems at all, I just maintain that the game is playable and fun inspite of them. But learn to differentiate between a bad design decisions and software faults. They are very different.

"Blindly"? Based off many weeks of solid play? OK.

Flashpoint is horrendously buggy though.

EDIT: and don't try to side step your bullshit statement with that lie - what I quoted was very much to do with BoP:

JUST POSTING to remind you YOUR A BLIND BRAIN WASHED JERK..LOL JUST TESSING,,HAVE NOT MESSED WITH YOU THIS WEEK...

Ok Let me say this and "spain it to me Lucy". MULTI player stuff on the other games I play FORZA and COD seem to be ez to change.Scoring Issues,game styles,etc,etc,and stuff connected to on line play.Is the stuff for multi player different from normal play .My question could things like SCORING and how much you get for a kill and what you get for a death.Is that stuff different from the rest of the game and could things have been changed in the server with out of whole update??????

InfiniteStates 12-01-2009 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IiI GUNNY IiI (Post 124290)
Ok Let me say this and "spain it to me Lucy". MULTI player stuff on the other games I play FORZA and COD seem to be ez to change.Scoring Issues,game styles,etc,etc,and stuff connected to on line play.Is the stuff for multi player different from normal play .My question could things like SCORING and how much you get for a kill and what you get for a death.Is that stuff different from the rest of the game and could things have been changed in the server with out of whole update??????

Sorry, man - I can only understand about every 5th word. Are you asking why BoP needs a full update where as other games can change their scoring systems easily?

durangodoug 12-01-2009 03:48 PM

I think he's asking why we have to wait for a huge patch when they could've maybe released several small updates to fix small things within multiplayer.

IiI GUNNY IiI 12-03-2009 03:08 PM

yes
 
Yes ,For the ones that give a left handed insult by implying they cannot understand my style of ENGLISH.Yes that is what I was asking.I hope I did not use any words that confused anyone.

InfiniteStates 12-03-2009 03:27 PM

It's more how you string several words together rather than any particular word ;)

To answer durangodoug's interpretation of the question, it's because it costs the publisher money to release a patch, for which they see no return. So it makes more (business) sense to wait and release all fixes at once. That becomes truer the more niche the game.

And remember, they are not obligated in any way, despite what the community thinks, to release any patches. So you can't blame them for doing it in the most cost-effective way they can.

InfiniteStates 12-03-2009 10:33 PM

Sorry for double post, but I thought you should all know why the patch is taking so long...

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...tes/Excuse.jpg

:)

Zatoichi_Sanjuro 12-03-2009 11:18 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbIWN8bufWI

InfiniteStates 12-03-2009 11:35 PM

Haha awesome yeah - that vid has been a staple "lol" around the office for a good while.

Dawglucky 02-28-2010 05:53 PM

505 update
 
will it go to a 505 website or right to ps3 ?

trk29 02-28-2010 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawglucky (Post 146859)
will it go to a 505 website or right to ps3 ?

The game will update if your connected to the internet using your ps3. After the game launches it checks for a update.

hurricane 03-03-2010 12:21 AM

if this patch happens it better not screw up my hurricane

SEE 03-03-2010 11:36 PM

you don't have to worry about that.....your on Xbox and your Hurricane will always be that same familiar experience, unfortunately...so will everything else............:grin:

hurricane 03-04-2010 12:49 AM

if they make it better thats great.otherwise i dont mind flying a familiar plane.for now its the closest i'll ever get to flying ww2 planes or any plane for that matter.

ButcherBird 03-04-2010 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurricane (Post 147562)
if they make it better thats great.otherwise i dont mind flying a familiar plane.for now its the closest i'll ever get to flying ww2 planes or any plane for that matter.

I'm glad you like the Hurricane, fine aircraft.

i agree that they have come close to perfect on many planes, but for someone like me whose seen some aircraft that i have admired for many years just horribly represented, would like to see corrections be made.

One of my favorite planes is the FW-190, and from my research, it is poorly represented performance-wise. The P-51, i believe, also needs a face lift in performance. Seems like for the most part, British and Russian aircraft were properly represented, and all others were short of perfection.

Give me improvements and cockpits for the BF-109's and FW-190's and i'd be a happy SOB


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