agreed, my gramps told me when they saw a plane going down they always hoped to see a parachute meaning the pilot was able to get out safely, no matter what side he was on,

when he got his first kill in a fighter, i beleve it was in a p-51, i remember he said how disapointed he was that the pilot never was able to bail out. he said it suprised him how much it affected him. said he had dreams about watching the smoking one winged plane plumeting all the was down to earth ending in a fireball. not only did these brave men risk their lives in combat but were plagued the rest of their lives by the memories of the horrors they had committed and witnessed.

Yeah, I think the sensation of a dogfight is birds vs. bird; not human vs. human. That may be what they felt.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6af_1251582089

kool gun cam shootings of migs, i know it not ww2 but still kool

I don't think either of my grandfathers felt much when they were dogfighting, only probably the fact that they wanted to get home again?? I know for sure that my grandfather who flew against the Japanese, seemed to have no remorse for those he shot down. (His brother was killed when the Japanese attacked the Philippine Islands.) I think my grandfather who flew for Mussolini felt sadness, but he never really mentioned it or said anything in his stories about feeling bad, he just felt the need to get back alive like any other pilot I guess?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=873_1251325369

ww2

It saddens me deeply to see gun cam footage of the hurricane getting shot down!! im sure im on a site where everyone is anti hurricane!! are you all sh!tfire fan boys?? lol.

The hurricane (in my eyes) is and always will be the most amazing aircraft ever designded and built. She's a beauty.

i dont like the spitfire too but the p-51 and p-47 are in my opinion the most beautifull planes ever made

Its not that i hate the spitfire, its an iconic aircraft, flies well and look right!! but its just not the hurricane!! the hurricane is a work horse, she will look after you and do the job thats needed. It just annoys me when -

a) its always over looked in favour of the spitfire "which saved us in 1940" which is rubbish, it was a team effort, but if you want stats then the hurricane got more kills than all other land/air combined (granted the hurri was in greater numbers)

b) someone says the spitfire is better than the hurricane, the huricane is rubbish...then have no arguement to back it up! they just go on what the read/see/hear etc.


lol i guess im a hurri fan boy.


I agree with the P51 looking good, its a nice bird, with a mighty fine engine i might add ;) just something about a P51 with D-DAY stripes that looks superb. The P-47 though.... not feling that one. The "jug" just doesnt do it for me. Nice beefy engine though. Nothing personal, its a great plane!! it just doesnt appeal to me.

I think the Hurricane is a great plane! I mean I like it just as much as the Spitfire, and at times am interested in knowing more about one over the other, but (in my eyes) nothing is more sleek and beautiful than a Yak-3 :cool:

But I do like the Hurricane, and what it did. But over the years, it just got over lapped by newer better performing Hawker fighter/bombers.

Interesting story:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090904/...s_buried_wings