I have a Saitek Aviator. I use it for ace combat 6. I find that the handle is a little stiff and not very ergonomical. If it had a rubberized handle or something it might not be so bad. It is functional though and is a step up from using the standard game controllers. I like that the handle twists for rudder control. I find I can do more precise flight maneuvers with it than I could with a standard controller, which is needed when using planes like the A-10. Without it I would often spin upside down and slam into the ground a bit too often.

I got my Saitek for I think $50 USD.
The Ace Edge stick was a limited edition product sold in late 2007. But you can find it on Amazon.com for around $140, or used on EBay for somewhere in the $90-130 range.

I think I'll go with the Saitek one for 50 bucks, I'd rather not pay over a hundred bucks for something that says "Ace Combat" on it :D

The new Hori Xbox 360 EX HOTAS

http://www.hori.jp/products/xbox360/...x_black_05.jpg

I like the black ! I might have to paint my Hori Ace edge black !
Nice find , I'm glad to see Hori is make more of these sticks so people can get them. DESODE

I assume this is just an "unbranded" version of the Ace Edge, and as such will work with BoP?

Any links to more details about it, like a product page or (preferably!) somewhere that sells it? :)

(This makes me quite nostalgic for the old Saitek X35/36 setup I had before the Cougar…)

I don't think that's available outside of Japan, is it?

http://www.hori.jp/products/xbox360/...x_black_13.jpg

You can start your research here:

http://www.hori.jp/products/xbox360/...lightex_black/

For you PC flight simmers, meet the new king of the HOTAS world.

Logitech G940 Flight System

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/ga...&readreviews=1

http://images.pcworld.com/news/graph...ly1_lo_350.jpg

System Requirements

o PC with Windows® XP or Windows Vista®
o CD-ROM drive
o Internet connection required for installation
o 25 MB of available hard drive space
o USB 2.0 port
o AC power connection (110-230v)

Software

o I-FORCE™ Force Feedback Technology Licensed from Immersion Corporation.
o Logitech™ Gaming Software for Windows™

Technical Specifications
Joystick

o Precision force feedback
o 2-stage metal trigger
o POV Control Switch
o 8-way hat switch
o Six programmable buttons
o Pinkie shift button
o Three analog trim controls
o Contactless X & Y positional sensor
o Rubber feet with base mounting points

Dual throttle

o Split design throttle with interlock and adjustable tension
o Two 4-way hat switches
o Four programmable buttons on grip
o Two rotary analog controls
o Eight programmable base buttons with independent interactive LED backlighting and user changeable legends
o 3-position mode switch
o Rubber feet with base mounting points

Rudder pedals

o Realistic rudder pedals with stainless steel treads
o Toe brakes
o Adjustable resistance control
o Retractable carpet lock
o Rubber feet with base mounting points

All buttons, switches, and axes are fully programmable

o 8-foot (2.4-meter) cable connector

I did a little digging into that Black Hori Flightstick. From what I can tell only 2000 were made and they run on Ebay for $250-260 US.

That price is laughable.

Does anybody know what the control layout is for the gamepads? I'm hoping for an option to have left stick:pitch/roll, and right stick:rudder/throttle.

I've never used a flight stick before so i think i'm better off sticking with a good old controller.