Hi SlipBall,

SEOW has been around well before the current divisive issues. My esteemed compatriate, IV/JG7_4Shades is the chief instigator and he's been working on SEOW for more years than I (and probably himself) cares to remember. His team constantly seeks to improve it and SEOW is a constantly evolving product. Is certainly something that is done from the heart and definitely not for monetary gain. Yes, I believe Oleg was contacted and it demonstrated about a year or so ago through one or both of his representatives/friends, Luthier or Crazy Ivan. Don't know the details and if it went anywhere. Not too concerned, its opened sourced code afterall and I'd guess his people would be looking into such things somewhere down the track. As for us, is much more about getting the most out of IL2 and whatever happens, happens.

Regards,
Warg

IT'S A FIGURE OF SPEECH!!!! In Reply to: Re: Close but no cigar posted by R. Berg on November 09, 2001

: : "Close but no cigar." I think it means "Sorry, but your answer is wrong." But why a cigar? I'm wondering if cigars were carnival prizes at one time.

: Yes, they were. For a right answer, the response is "Give that man a cigar."

: I (in the U.S.) gather from reading that in the U.K. coconuts are or were used the same way. Eric Partridge, "a Dictionary of Catch Phrases," cites a saying "Give that gentleman a coconut."

Specifically, the carnival game was a "test of strength" where a man (trying mightily to impress the little lady) would swing a big mallet onto a lever that would launch a weighted projectile, guided up a rope towards a firebell. IF he was mighty enough, he would ring the bell, and win a cigar. There were gradations of failure, too, with little slogans written on the board behind the rope: "Weakling" at the bottom, to "Close" near the bell. There were (are?) two keys to the carney gag* and its profitability: teenage boys would get into competition, the result of testosterone poisoning, and (most important) the cost to participate was more than the cost of the cigar. *Gags was a carney word for such games, including Guess Your Age/Weight, etc. I knew people who owned an amusement park, and when interviewing the seasonal help, would automatically eliminate anyone who used the word Gag, as it made them morally suspect. They were probably correct in that assumption.

Following on Warg's excellent posts:

SEOW only interacts with IL-2 via standard FMB mission files (to set up a coop) and the eventlog (to parse the coop results).

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We have had friendly contacts with Oleg, CrazyIvan and Luthier over the years, and we wait for SoW with anticipation. We understand that SEOW probably goes way beyond what is commercially feasible for a campaign system - SEOW at full switch is very detailed and demanding on players in order to give a realistic combined forces battlefield environment. However we hope that at least some of our ideas and software implementations may influence design and feature directions for SoW, and we stand ready to assist 1C if required.

In the meantime, we serve our community of interest as best we can.

Cheers,
4Shades
SEOW Developer

mmm, kinda like an online version of Lowengrin eh? That sounds pretty deep. AwSim!!!