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Ze-Jamz 10-09-2012 09:14 PM

I took an E-1 up today and loaded it with Beo's and tracer...No Dmg whatsoever to online Spits but did Dmg AI bombers..

I come up on a Spit's high 6 who didnt see me and peppered him with all 4 guns, I could see the impacts but no DMG was shown neither was he Dmg's...I expended all my ammo in the end fighting him untill i made a run home..

landed and stats said no Dmg..

Before that I hit (or thought i did) approx 3-4 Spits through the night but didnt bring any down, just thought I was unlucky as nothing was showing on stats...

either way not good..I wont be loading them for online play again, they work fine and as they should offline and on AI as i said..

Strange

David198502 10-09-2012 09:33 PM

yep definitely strange....and for me it seems the same, meaning that there is a difference between online and offline mode...

SlipBall 10-09-2012 09:37 PM

They had the gunnery right when the sim was released, a lot has changed since.

5./JG27.Farber 10-09-2012 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 468048)
yep definitely strange....and for me it seems the same, meaning that there is a difference between online and offline mode...

DM & FM are different for people and bots, offline and online essentially. ;)

David198502 10-10-2012 02:16 AM

yeah but why the heck is that the case...

Robo. 10-10-2012 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 468098)
yeah but why the heck is that the case...

Because 1c. :o

Very interesting and strange, David.

any information regarding the use of B Geschoss in this period? I remember the ammo was in fact quite similar to the British DeWilde and was used by Luftwaffe /maybe developed for them as well/. Was it belted in Me 109s and bomber gunners as well?

Attila 10-10-2012 06:11 AM

last night i was flying for one and a half hour on ATAG. Killed 4 Spits. After landing i saw the damageprotocol and there was alot of damages! btw, nice feature this protocol on ATAG:)!

David198502 10-10-2012 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Robo. (Post 468113)
Because 1c. :o

Very interesting and strange, David.

any information regarding the use of B Geschoss in this period? I remember the ammo was in fact quite similar to the British DeWilde and was used by Luftwaffe /maybe developed for them as well/. Was it belted in Me 109s and bomber gunners as well?

Hey Robo!
well, its not easy to find got sites with information about this...but ive found this:
http://www.waffen-welt.de/bilder/DiePatrone7.92x57.pdf

on page 65 there is a section about the B-Patrone.
it clearly says, that it should have explosvie as well as incendiary effects.
the article also states that it was used by the Luftwaffe...

David198502 10-10-2012 09:24 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkRDhtx5AxM

Robo. 10-10-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 468141)
Hey Robo!
well, its not easy to find got sites with information about this...but ive found this:
http://www.waffen-welt.de/bilder/DiePatrone7.92x57.pdf

on page 65 there is a section about the B-Patrone.
it clearly says, that it should have explosvie as well as incendiary effects.
the article also states that it was used by the Luftwaffe...

Thanks David, I did some research for all ammunition types in the game a while back and I am aware of the effects and structure of this type of rounds. But I failed to find any specific information as how exactly has this ammunition been used in the Summer of 1940. I always thought that the B-Geschoss was specifically designed for the Luftwaffe (it was illegal for Infantry afik) In fact, all information about LW historical ammo belts is a bit difficult to obtain, I googled in English and auf Deutsch but no avail.


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