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Flanker35M 04-08-2012 05:12 PM

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Point taken :D IT is easy to operate them, been in that Bf109G to try them.

Robo. 04-08-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 406942)
I just can't imagine a pilot adjusting more than a very few degrees at a time

Exactly. But now, you can adjust full range within very short period of time, hence the topic of this thread.

SlipBall 04-08-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Robo. (Post 406952)
Exactly. But now, you can adjust full range within very short period of time, hence the topic of this thread.


Again I estimate 3 seconds...but unknown

Al Schlageter 04-08-2012 05:22 PM

Sure with the a/c sitting on the ground one could put more turn on the wheel. have you tried the wheel while flying a 109 in combat Flanker?

http://achileus.cz/wp-content/upload...pit_photo1.jpg

SlipBall 04-08-2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Schlageter (Post 406941)
It would take longer than that as he could only move the wheel maybe a 1/4 > 1/3 turn for each grab of the wheel. That would be 20+ grabs.


If you watch the animation, full travel is about only 3/4 of one revolution. ..and so thats what we have, very quick deployment for full range. Is it accurate? we would need someone with experience of turning the wheel, or perhaps an operations manual.

VO101_Tom 04-08-2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Robo. (Post 406926)
With elevator trim assigned to an joystick axis, you will be able to get full effect of the trim within split of a second whereby it took much longer in real life and the response was nowhere as swift. Give it a shot, you'll see. With this 'exploit', the 109 is way too manoeverable and you're actually winning turnfights with Hurricanes and you'll be able to hit Spitfires breaking hard while diving on them full speed. I fly all planes in game and I find this a severe issue, just like these nose ups with flaps down and other sci-fi physics.

Hi.
I'm using the trimm with axis (on of the small scrolling wheel on the throttle). When i roll the wheel from +8 to -3, it takes seconds. Much slower, than the stick movement...
You say, if i set the trimm to joystick main axis, it will be much faster? I can't test it now, but i am curious...

Varrattu 04-08-2012 05:37 PM

You're lucky to fly in virtual world ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcMjh...layer_embedded

VO101_Tom 04-08-2012 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Schlageter (Post 406954)
Sure with the a/c sitting on the ground one could put more turn on the wheel. have you tried the wheel while flying a 109 in combat Flanker?

If you are in constant turning, im sure, every pilot using the trimm. If you don't, your hand getting tired easily (even in a glider). More advantage, that you can keeping accurate speed (corner speed in the fighter, optimal speed in the glider, etc.).

Robo. 04-08-2012 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VO101_Tom (Post 406957)
Hi.
I'm using the trimm with axis (on of the small scrolling wheel on the throttle). When i roll the wheel from +8 to -3, it takes seconds. Much slower, than the stick movement...
You say, if i set the trimm to joystick main axis, it will be much faster? I can't test it now, but i am curious...

Hi Tom. No, it's the same speedwise. I am using mine just like yours, joystick axis I ment the wheel (which is a hotas axis, too), sorry about the confusion.

VO101_Tom 04-08-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Robo. (Post 406963)
Hi Tom. No, it's the same speedwise. I am using mine just like yours, joystick axis I ment the wheel (which is a hotas axis, too), sorry about the confusion.

Ok, np.
Thx.


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