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Verhängnis 03-12-2012 04:50 AM

For combat, I'd prefer the 109, for general flying, love the G-50. Hopefully after the new FM for it comes, I will love it even more.

klem 03-12-2012 06:49 AM

With the correct FMs? The Spitfire for straight dogfighting. It was better at that than the 109 except for the combat bunt. Of course the 109s didn't dogfight very much and played to their strengths of high numbers, high energy tactics and more powerful guns. But if they tried to dogfight it was a different story.

As the FMs are at the moment? The Rotol Hurri and 109s are a trade off for me, partly of 'loyalty'. Hurri for maneouverability, 109 for climb, guns and simple engine management. I fly RAF so for me its the Hurricane but the 109 is probably the better choice as they are currently modelled or even when they are properly modelled (the Merlin negative G is still way too sensitive for reasonable maneouvres, leaving out the combat bunt). The Spitfire II would probably be most peoples favourite if they put 'loyalty' aside simply because its the only Spitfire modelled near correctly while the 109s aren't (if these forums are correct). The Spitfire Is power and speed are almost laughable although handling seems to be quite good.

Red Dragon-DK 03-12-2012 06:52 AM

Why are bombers not in the list? Would you be so cind, to add those to the list? Some of us we like a good dogfight, but doing this all the time, can be qiut borring. I like a lot to do sorties in the JU88. others prefer sorties in HE111, Blenhaim, Ju87, Savoia-Marchetti S-79.

But as a fighter pilot 109. It handle great, have a good preformans speed and turns well. Good a decent firepower.

Cheers

trademe900 03-12-2012 06:55 AM

Love the Hurricane. Always been used to the way it turns and can not settle for less. I sometimes find myself jealous of the 109 for it's speed, however!

Having said that, you can overlook that if you can have the patience to climb above the bomber formation and then smash down through it.

topgum 03-12-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GF_Mastiff (Post 398200)
SPIT Ia version not on your list why?

Not sure if I got you right, but I put only ONE choice for every fightermodel on the list,
#1 for having a poll for our opinion what shows which general design we prefer
#2 there is an obvisously performance-gap between the 1a and MK II version, which seems to be only VIRTUAL. So voting for the better virtual model is not my goal.
#3 They changed the 2speed pitch of DH 5-20 Hurricane to constant speed pitch during the battle. So why should I "allow" to vote for model/option which was "voted" for Out in RL

topgum 03-12-2012 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dragon-DK (Post 398288)
Why are bombers not in the list? Would you be so cind, to add those to the list? Some of us we like a good dogfight, but doing this all the time, can be qiut borring. I like a lot to do sorties in the JU88. others prefer sorties in HE111, Blenhaim, Ju87, Savoia-Marchetti S-79.

But as a fighter pilot 109. It handle great, have a good preformans speed and turns well. Good a decent firepower.

Cheers

Hi RD-DK,
Bombers are not on the list, because the goal of the topic ist not to know which AC we in general prefer in that Sim, it is just for to know which fightermodel we prefer for special fighter Missions/ tacticals/ fighter arming layouts etc. Talking about the "Lofte"-bombingsight, for ex. would be oT.
But we can have that discussion aswell.
Come on, give us a new thread!
cheers

topgum 03-12-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Verhängnis (Post 398275)
For combat, I'd prefer the 109, for general flying, love the G-50. Hopefully after the new FM for it comes, I will love it even more.

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topgum 03-12-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert (Post 398263)
I'm a lover, not a fighter. I like the Tiger Moth. ;)

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Originally Posted by Robert (Post 398263)
...Aiming is easier in the Hurricane because the sight isn't off set. I fly with Track IR and am still not used to that in the 109 and the LEAN to SIGHT function isn't too smooth - especially when you shoot past an enemy in a boom and zoom, and you still need to track him. The reversion back to regular view is clumsy and time consuming. Unless there's another function I'm not aware of the LEAN to SIGHT is useless for me....

thx Robert,for german-offcenterd-sight-point.

#1 to handle it better by TIR, you can offcenter your head slightly to the left und push the center-key then, this brings the sight to the center of your POW, hope this helps!

#2 The offcenter design was made to force german pilots to aime with their right (dominant) eye. The dominant eye is your "main" eye, while the other allows the stereoscopic viewing. I do archering a little bit, but "unfortunately" my dominating eye is the left as it is for many other people, too. Maybe dued to the Nazi-ideology that the "superior aryan" has allways the right eye as the dominating one. I don't know. Did they loose the battle dued this ;) ? After '45 they gave up the thing.

#3 Comparing VR against RL: As we are unable to use this gunsight in the "right" way, because of the lack of real stereoscopic view, we are reaching the limits of a Sim! As we also have to face these facts concerning the physical labour in a dogfight, pain if you get a hit, and so on. 99% accurate flightmodelling should be feasible however;)


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