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addman 12-25-2011 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 373137)
Maybe so, but there are never enough last gen biplanes that we can fly.

I'm still somewhat crushed that the Gladiator and CR.42 will not be flyable in CLOD.

Me too, what a waste of gorgeous plane models...anywho let's hope for the HS-123 and maybe even a flyable Polikarpov U-2! Oh that would be so sweet. Ok, calm down now, don't get your expectations too high now like last time.:)

Flanker35M 12-25-2011 10:39 AM

S!

After reading German pilot memoirs it seems that at beginning of Barbarossa they used a lot of older versions too, not always the latest batch of fighters and bombers. For example JG 5 Eismeer had it's last Bf109G-2's in 1944 and Emils were phased out as late as 1942/43...

Will be interesting to see what we have in the sequel. For sure getting it if it means we get Mediterranean/North Africa too at some point :)

csThor 12-25-2011 11:49 AM

JG 5 is a very special case, kind of "poor man's war" up there. On the main front only JG 27 and parts of JG 77 still used Emils in 1941, the former until they departed for North Africa, the latter already receiving its first Bf 109 F-4 in July and August 1941.

Blakduk 12-26-2011 04:28 AM

From my limited understanding of how the LW functioned throughout the war many 109's were uprated with different components throughout their service life. Wings were changed, armament interchanged, engines swapped etc, so trawling through the archives it can be quite confusing just what different units were actually flying. I've read accounts of factory-fresh planes being sent to operational units and being immediately customised to the desired specs of the veteran pilots. In this i believe they had more opportunity to do so compared to allied pilots as the components of their aircraft were designed to be more easily interchangeable.
As i read of the development of CoD i was quite intrigued how this would be replicated in-game. That's one aspect of CoD that i believe will be a strength as it matures- the new program allows different variants of the same airframe to handle quite differently according to how it was constructed. Il2 had a similar but more basic system.

csThor 12-26-2011 05:48 AM

There weren't that many fighter-bomber Emils around in 1941, only II.(Schlacht)/LG 2 used them in this role.

pupaxx 12-26-2011 06:32 AM

ok guys...they were only 17 in charge at 21° Gruppo but why not Macchi Mc202 'Folgore'? :-P :-P :-P
Reading at your post a thought comes to mind, if the FMs of CloD planeset (composed by 4-5 types (109e1-3 spit 1-1a 2)) took so much time to be tuned and with questionable results, in how many months will we see a complete and convincing planeset for the sequel? Not a criticism, just a thought on how much work is in front of Devs...
Cheers...Merry Christmas to you all!

csThor 12-26-2011 06:34 AM

The Folgores came only in 1942 to operate in the south towards Stalingrad. I don't think the italian planes of the Eastern Front (or romanian or finnish, for that matter) will find their way into BoM simply because they didn't serve in that area.

pupaxx 12-26-2011 06:47 AM

:oops::oops::oops:...ehm! ok but it would be already available for MED theatre...eh eh

ATAG_Dutch 12-26-2011 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 373137)
Maybe so, but there are never enough last gen biplanes that we can fly.

I'm still somewhat crushed that the Gladiator and CR.42 will not be flyable in CLOD.

Maybe a Malta map in the MTO at some future point?

Here's hoping. ;)

ATAG_MajorBorris 12-26-2011 01:10 PM

CoD for $16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SturmKreator (Post 373019)
If I don't see focke wulf, I will never gonna buy this game

You have 75 posts and cant pony up a pitance. Its well worth it if you like ww2 combat flight sims!


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