Great initiative. Thx for pushing that one :grin:

Of course the G-50 is a death coffin and I am not sure that somùe will even reach every target objectives with such a tank capacity.

But what I see is that the G50 will be there only to fill the fighter gap when the Stucka will be on there way back.

The 110C7 is perfectly suited for some high BARCAP positioned inland over UK between Red airfield and the bomber stream path. That's where will be for my part ! ;)

A good combinaison of high flying Stucka and bomb carrying 110 flying deck and fast would hve a good chance of success IMHO.

.... 6 in the morning on saturday : ouch ! :oops:

As an RAF pilot reading your quick take on Saturday's event, I can only think of two words: "Uh oh!"

See you on Saturday, TC. I need to get some serious stick time on the 2-speed Spit I!!!!!

Tomcat,

Should be about 11 a.m. your time (France I believe).

I will be there!!!

Thanks Bliss

~S~

Deacon

I think there's some confusion here. :)

The mission will run all weekend long. It's starting early for those fellas on the other side of the Earth :D

But the mission will rotate/recycle/start over after a certain amount of time. If the blues don't get all their objectives in a 4 hour window, reds will win and the mission/map will reload. On the same front if the blues destroy all their objectives, the mission will end with blues winning (but it will start over again) So basically, it will repeat this all weekend long. There's no particular show up time that everyone needs to be there for. It's just done this way so everyone that wants to throughout all the time zones will get a crack at it.

Boy I am sure glad you took pictures because after Saturday they wont be there!

The RAF will be decimated.

The two speed prop birds are hopeless against the E1 and 110.

The G.50 will be a one way trip, but at least it will be a long one...

That said I'll pop in at some point to let Jerry pad his net stats.

That's kinda what I was thinking. And can you believe the blues are complaining about the planesets? I think if it was unlimited E4's vs the tiger moth some people would still complain.

I really don't understand your attitude.

If you think it is unballanced then don't take part. Or better yet set up a server and create your own missions the way you want it. Do it right and the community will say thankyou.

The guys from ATAG have been extremely generous with their time, effort and resources creating this event. They have created a limited plane set and stated the reasons behind the choices.

Why get so aggressive? It's like you think that they have a Red bias. From my experience flying on the server a lot of people with ATAG_ infront of their callsign actually fly Blue by preference.

There are technical limitations that they HAVE to take into account to get this event to work, there are also game play issues that they get to choose. Thats part of their job as mission developers.

I hope this is not just a once off event. I'm sure if there are balance issues with the event they will take that into account when they do it again next time.


Thanks for the effort ATAG Team! I'll try to drop in over the weekend.

Thanks Tiger. I'll see you there :)

In response to the difference between putting 35 AI ju88s up and putting player flown JU88s, I believe the game has to handle a lot more information when you've got a player flown plane. All those temperature, pitch, fuel mixture ratings, etc etc. I don't think they all get tracked completely with AI. Then you've got to remember these are twin engined planes, so double all that info for every bomber.

I'm not sure why the 110s don't seem to be as much of an issue. There could be issues with the code for the bombers, or for those particular engines.

Hopefully this isn't a serious enough issue that it won't be resolved by the graphics update and we can start to include lots of player flown bombers from both sides in campaigns like this.

Considering how the campaign went earlier on Sundays with all the launcher crashes for players on both sides just as battle was joined, ATAG taking a lot of trouble to try and minimize the crashes is very appreciated.

As for the plane set complaints: I can't understand how little people seem to believe in the power of SITUATION over LIMITATION. Yes, your aircraft may have limits, but holy crap it's 90% about how you position yourself before you encounter the enemy. I just flew tonight completely in a Spitfire I on the NORMAL ATAG server with E4s and E3s galore. How did I do? 3+ kills, no deaths, and one forced landing in France (a nice easy landing at a French airfield after my engine got shot up - even managed a 3 point touch down with no bounce).

I see absolutely nothing about the plane set being offered for Saturday that is going to make the session no fun. It will be fun. There will be fun had. You just have to want to have it and not get all bent out of shape that it's not this that or the other.

The only time I've ever felt that I was killed without a chance in the game is when I get teamed up on by a good working wing pair and that has nothing to do with which plane they're flying at the time - it's about how they approach the situation. Maybe some of those guys in squadrons might surprise themselves by flying the G.50s with the same attitude.