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JG53Frankyboy 11-26-2011 09:07 PM

compare how the 3D incockpit levers (mixture & throttle),of a G.50 move with how the Hurricane/Spitfire levers move in reaction to your controler input, perhaps than you understand what i mean.

my main interest is that all planes can be contolled at least with the same logic.

TomcatViP 11-26-2011 09:14 PM

each country has his own habits. Some power up for example by pushing on the throttle and some pull.

When I fly the Hurricane for ex. I hev to keep in mind that the prop pitch ctrl is reversed from that of the 109.

I am sure that by mapping different profile for your ctrler according to each plane you like to fly, it shld be as if CoD has a unified ctrl law.

JG53Frankyboy 11-26-2011 09:30 PM

but for me its still silly that if i want to push the mixture lever forward in a 3D cockpit ( whatever mixture setting is the result than ) , i have to push my controler lever forward when flying a Hurricane but backwards when flying a G .50 .

But true, CoD has bigger proplems!

klem 11-28-2011 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moggy (Post 364623)
In the ferry pilots notes it states;

Mixture. Mixture is either Automatic Rich or Automatic Weak. The lever friction is adjusted by a knob concentric with the throttle friction control.
The throttle and mixture controls are interconnected and in some cases it will not be possible to bring the throttle back below +2 boost without moving the mixture control. In these aircraft no harm will result by moving the mixture lever back with the throttle until zero boost is obtained.
In some of the latest aircraft mixture control is fully automatic and there is either no lever or if one is fitted it is wired in WEAK.

I can only guess that the automatic mixture function enriches the mixture when required and if the lever was wired in Rich it would override the automatic function which would not be able to Lean the mixture. Just a guess though.

Robo. 11-28-2011 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klem (Post 365021)
I can only guess that the automatic mixture function enriches the mixture when required and if the lever was wired in Rich it would override the automatic function which would not be able to Lean the mixture. Just a guess though.

If you mean the interconection of mixture and throttle levers, this was done purely mechanically (spring on some aircraft, shape of the levers on a Hurricane). So if a pilot flying on AUTO LEAN pulled the throttle lever towards him to lower the boost, mixture lever was also physically moved to AUTO RICH position. Mixture lever was operating 'other way around' in all RAF fighter aircraft in this era for that very reason.

No matter how the devs decide to deal with the Italian approach, the levers in cockpit should move correctly. As for now, only Rotol Hurricane is OK, Spitfires and dH Hurri are wrong as for the Mixture lever animations + more importatnly, the mixture as such is modelled incorrectly. (1.05)

Moggy 11-28-2011 09:09 AM

Still at least it's not as bad as being able to start the Hurricane on main tanks. I've tried to send Luthier some documents and a film but his inbox is full.

Hood 11-28-2011 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robo. (Post 365044)
If you mean the interconection of mixture and throttle levers, this was done purely mechanically (spring on some aircraft, shape of the levers on a Hurricane). So if a pilot flying on AUTO LEAN pulled the throttle lever towards him to lower the boost, mixture lever was also physically moved to AUTO RICH position. Mixture lever was operating 'other way around' in all RAF fighter aircraft in this era for that very reason.

No matter how the devs decide to deal with the Italian approach, the levers in cockpit should move correctly. As for now, only Rotol Hurricane is OK, Spitfires and dH Hurri are wrong as for the Mixture lever animations + more importatnly, the mixture as such is modelled incorrectly. (1.05)

In any case it's only relevant if you use the mouse to shift the mixture lever. If you use a controller you can simply reverse the key/controller input so that you click/push "up" and the in-cockpit lever goes "down".

Simples

Hood

Robo. 11-28-2011 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hood (Post 365074)
In any case it's only relevant if you use the mouse to shift the mixture lever. If you use a controller you can simply reverse the key/controller input so that you click/push "up" and the in-cockpit lever goes "down".

But even so, the animation in the cockpit is other way round (and that's my point) in Spitfires and dH Hurricane.

klem 11-28-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robo. (Post 365044)
If you mean the interconection of mixture and throttle levers............................................ ......

No, I was replying to Moggy's previous post about later Automatic systems which he believes sometimes still may have had a lever in the cockpit but was wired to the Weak position.


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