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ATAG_Dutch 10-19-2011 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by aus3620 (Post 351649)
yep!!! and yep! In the last week I've noticed a lack of LW AI bombers. More allied bombing raids than LW? seems a bit odd.

I have to agree here. I've spent more time chasing altitude to attack a friendly formation of bombers than anything else.

'Blenheims heading for Calais'....'Wellingtons heading for.. wherever'.

For now, it seems to me to be more in keeping with the 'spirit of the game' to send more bombers to GB. With or without close escort.

Mind you, I do appreciate that it can't be easy for the mission designers.

Thanks for everything you blokes have done so far!:grin:

McFeckit 10-19-2011 11:53 PM

The last two nights i've not encountered a single LW bomber. Seems most of the time Dover and nearby airfields are constantly being buzzed by low flying LW fighters. During the real BOB, the ideal purpose of the Hurri was to take out bombers whilst the Spit kept the LW escorts occupied. Often however both Hurri's and Spits engaged the bombers.

I've yet to experience that kind of action online...what is needed is waves of LW bombers with LW escorts, at altitude. I can't think of one incident when allied airfields were being constantly buzzed by lone squadrons of LW fighters, except in Northern France of course.

That said, I love playing online and am having a ball....even if it's mostly a low altitude furball over dover.:rolleyes:

trumps 10-19-2011 11:55 PM

I fly mainly LW, either the E-1 or the 110 c7 against ground targets, from time to time I fly RAF and make up numbers but this is a mission based server so there is plenty going on even if the sides aren't even. Really I will fly for what ever side I am interested in at the time, and there is no reason that anyone shouldn't or be whined at because of their choice. The sides did seem pretty even if not red biased after the release of beta2.

Craig

ATAG_Dutch 10-20-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by McFeckit (Post 351663)
That said, I love playing online and am having a ball....even if it's mostly a low altitude furball over dover.:rolleyes:

Me too, but the English Channel is a bit big for that when we've got the Isles of Paleantology to fight for, yes?

Jaws2002 10-20-2011 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by McFeckit (Post 351663)
The last two nights i've not encountered a single LW bomber. Seems most of the time Dover and nearby airfields are constantly being buzzed by low flying LW fighters. During the real BOB, the ideal purpose of the Hurri was to take out bombers whilst the Spit kept the LW escorts occupied. Often however both Hurri's and Spits engaged the bombers.

I've yet to experience that kind of action online...what is needed is waves of LW bombers with LW escorts, at altitude. I can't think of one incident when allied airfields were being constantly buzzed by lone squadrons of LW fighters, except in Northern France of course.

That said, I love playing online and am having a ball....even if it's mostly a low altitude furball over dover.:rolleyes:

That's because of the team stacking. The Germans don't have much to do, so they go where they can find some action....over the British airfields.

We picked a formation of Dorniers tonight going for Limpy. It was rather nice change.

Later tonight tho, it went back to 10 vs 4 kind of deal, where two 109's were circling above the field waiting for me to warm up the engine. :rolleyes:

Jaws2002 10-20-2011 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by trumps (Post 351664)
I fly mainly LW, either the E-1 or the 110 c7 against ground targets, from time to time I fly RAF and make up numbers but this is a mission based server so there is plenty going on even if the sides aren't even. Really I will fly for what ever side I am interested in at the time, and there is no reason that anyone shouldn't or be whined at because of their choice. The sides did seem pretty even if not red biased after the release of beta2.

Craig

Actually, there are a lot of games that have team balancing built into the game. In Il-2 it was a lot better. Most people liked a nice balanced game and everyone had fun.
I wish they gave the server the ability to choose how much imballance to allow.
Even if the server is mission oriented, and there are British bombers going over, a lot of blue players still choose to go cherry picking over the British arflields, when it's 4 to 1.

This is simply ignorance.

ReconNZ 10-20-2011 02:47 AM

I love it when there are lots of LW pilots. As long as I have a wingman or two, there are plenty of allied airfields to take off from if Hawkinge is being shot up by Jerry. As long as the bomber flights are regular are varied there is always lots to do.

I especially love the large bomber formations the ATAG lads have been experimenting with - nice work Bliss and Spin and co. Frequency of bomber flights is I understand still being tweaked as there are (or were) some quite long periods of no ai activity (at least there were last week - havent played much since the patch went global - no doubt the lads have redesigned the mission 4 or 5 times since then! :-) )


The key thing I'd love to see is a formation of 5 or 6 human 110's escorted by 5 or 6 109s coming over to raid the allied airfields. The only thing i think is missing is getting groups of humans to fly together with strategy across multiple aircraft variants. No doubt at all though that this will come in time as we all get used to things - Spin and I flew in a 3 blenheim formation to raid german fields a week or so ago with three hurri escorts - was tons of fun!

So bring it on Jerry! Get your squads together and show us how it's done! Our spits and Hurries are warmed up and waiting! :cool:

trumps 10-20-2011 03:01 AM

I am itching for the same thing mate, we have just about had it happen on a few occasions that I have been involved in, a bunch of 110's with a couple of 109's as tip cover, invariably it seems that we are just about at the targeted field or mission objective when steam crashes or some other PITA error occurs. It's not for lack of trying a lot of the time mate, I promise we will pay you a vist soon ;)

Craig

CWMV 10-20-2011 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaws2002 (Post 351701)
Actually, there are a lot of games that have team balancing built into the game. In Il-2 it was a lot better. Most people liked a nice balanced game and everyone had fun.
I wish they gave the server the ability to choose how much imballance to allow.
Even if the server is mission oriented, and there are British bombers going over, a lot of blue players still choose to go cherry picking over the British arflields, when it's 4 to 1.

This is simply ignorance.

Yep, because a lot of us simply cant stand the ugly British crates.
Even if I make no contact at all I still enjoy cruising with my wingman on a free hunt over the English coast.
All your going to do by making people fly somewhere they don't want to is is kill the servers popularity.
I know there are some that are happy to fly whatever they are given. However there are MANY, myself included, who have one aircraft, and fly it to the exclusion of near everything else.
Don't worry, wait till we have IL-2 Sturmovik: Defense of the Reich. All the rustang fanbois will swamp the servers and we valiant few Blue flyers will still be in our beloved 109's.

Jaws2002 10-20-2011 04:08 AM

The war is over for 70 years, remember? ;)

We've been playing some sort of Il-2 version for ten years now!!! Don't you get tired of doing the same thing for ten years?

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All your going to do by making people fly somewhere they don't want to is is kill the servers popularity.
It's actually this kind of attitude that kills the popularity. Think about the people in the other team. How do the feel when they get bounced over and over at the end of the runway and know there are 5 109's circling above for every Spit or Hurricane.
It gets boring quick.


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