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cellinsky 10-16-2011 10:21 AM

"New Cockpit color and all colors in the new patch is so much more BETTER... "

Never been negativ here, but I really wonder what some of you guys look at !??
As a graphics designer, I have my monitor set to defaults. Cockpit graphics look exactly if someone has its gamma settings way to dark and therefore did overcorrect the gradation. A common mistake with beginners, as I often see at school.
And the colrrs on the terrain look like uncorrected sattelite-images pre 1995. Abosolute horrible and unnecessairy changes here. Went back to the previous patch, wich is much more balanced overall IMHO. Hope it will turn out thr good way, cause I really like the sim
Cheers, Marcello

philip.ed 10-16-2011 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cellinsky (Post 349730)
"New Cockpit color and all colors in the new patch is so much more BETTER... "

Never been negativ here, but I really wonder what some of you guys look at !??
As a graphics designer, I have my monitor set to defaults. Cockpit graphics look exactly if someone has its gamma settings way to dark and therefore did overcorrect the gradation. A common mistake with beginners, as I often see at school.
And the colrrs on the terrain look like uncorrected sattelite-images pre 1995. Abosolute horrible and unnecessairy changes here. Went back to the previous patch, wich is much more balanced overall IMHO. Hope it will turn out thr good way, cause I really like the sim
Cheers, Marcello

+1, well said.

Hunden 10-16-2011 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sorak (Post 349674)
The reflections are not out.. They are less noticeable.. which is better.. Plus the reflections in the cockpit was never really anyway.. Look at the reflection closely.. its just a static picture that never changes no matter what really is the reflection.. Its been like the whole time...

New Cockpit color and all colors in the new patch is so much more BETTER...

I got some breast milk ready to go if needed

Lactating are we? Thanks but I don't like fat chicks...............

addman 10-16-2011 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by robtek (Post 349637)
Typical reaction of someone missing information about Software in general and programming especial.
Most things are happening below the surface, like a iceberg!

This iceberg is melting faster than Al Gores' predictions....

robtek 10-16-2011 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by addman (Post 349888)
This iceberg is melting faster than Al Gores' predictions....

Oh, you know what is hidden in the program-code?

Tell us more.

But then, i bet it was a guess, not even educated :D

ParaB 10-17-2011 12:18 AM

I couldn't care less what's hidden in the program code, I'd just finally love to play the game I paid 66.99€ for than more half a year ago.

6+ months after release and the devs STILL haven't managed to implement basic features like working FSAA, radio commands, non-ludicrous AI and correct FMS.

If I sound a tad bitter, then so be it. I've followed the Il2 series since the days of Bluebyte's involvement, but even my patience is running out eventually.

Jaws2002 10-17-2011 01:31 AM

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I got some breast milk ready to go if needed
Is that the only line you have? It's getting old, you know.:rolleyes:


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Originally Posted by sorak (Post 349674)
The reflections are not out.. They are less noticeable.. which is better.. New Cockpit color and all colors in the new patch is so much more BETTER...

The reflections are not less noticeable, they are pretty much gone.
You are the only one around here that finds the latest beta better when it comes to looks.

Here are two very similar screens taken in the curent official version, first beta and the latest beta:

Official version:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...enshot2180.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...enshot1517.jpg

first beta:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...enshot1275.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...enshot1015.jpg

and the last beta:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...eenshot550.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...enshot1538.jpg

Jaws2002 10-17-2011 01:44 AM

As you can see in the last beta the reflections are gone, the water looks flat and has the color of a stormy sea. Remember, part of the water color in the distance is given by the color of the sky that's reflected in the water. The blue sky reflected in the water should make the water look blue. Just simple fact.

The game lost a huge amount of beauty in the last beta. It lost the beautiful lightng, sea color and the beauty of the cockpits. This were some of the few strong points this game had.
If the final version looks anything like this last beta, this game is going to slowly die.

CWMV 10-17-2011 02:04 AM

Oh that just BS.
The strength of a simulator isn't in its reflections, its in performance.
If a game has really good visuals, but runs like poo, it won't make it. Sounds like CoD 1.2, yes?
But if it has rich content with a myriad of planes with accurate modeling in all aspects, lots of maps and easy to use fmb/qmb then it will live a long life.

I mean look at IL2. It looked like crap initially (neon green 109's anyone?) But it had much more going for it, and then the mod community was able to build on that and make it into an icon of combat flight sims.
Making these dooms day predictions because of the colors is just silly! Hell it might be that your monitor is simply out of adjustment. What will kill the game is a lack of content and a structure so unreliable that many can't play the game without having crashes, and botched FM's. Not to mention an obvious bias in the game to try to get the player to fly red lol.

Jaws2002 10-17-2011 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CWMV (Post 349995)
Oh that just BS.
The strength of a simulator isn't in its reflections, its in performance.
If a game has really good visuals, but runs like poo, it won't make it. Sounds like CoD 1.2, yes?
But if it has rich content with a myriad of planes with accurate modeling in all aspects, lots of maps and easy to use fmb/qmb then it will live a long life.

I mean look at IL2. It looked like crap initially ( neon green 109's anyone?) But it had much more going for it, and then the mod community was able to build on that and them it into an icon of combat flight sim.
Making these downs day predictions because if the colors is just silly! Hell it might be that your monitor is simply out of adjustment. What will kill the game is a lack of content and a structure so unreliable that many can't play the game without having crashes, and botched FM's. Not to mention an obvious bias in the game to try to get the player to fly red lol.

I agree with you, but the problem with this game is that those things you say "make a flight sim", are badly lacking. The two things nobody complained and everyone loved from the start, were the cockpits and lighting engine. Now those are both messed up, and the things you say make a flight sim are not exactly there yet.
So what is there to keep people coming for more?


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