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MadBlaster 10-05-2011 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM (Post 344243)
Welllllll...

IF you have more of 4GB of RAM, W7 x64 will make CloD runs better, because W7 x64 will use all your RAM to run EVERYTHING - not just CloD - and any game title likes free available physical memory.

IF you have multicore CPU, W7 is MUCH better than XP using all cores.

W7 is better than XP. Simple.

yes, I'm aware of that.

I just checked task manager. The overhead on my xp machine with avg free running in the background is only 400 MB. With the 3gb switch enabled, I can run il-2 max settings online, texture compression off, supplemental programs like freetrack, hyperlobby, glovepie in the background. After that, there is still about 1GB left out of the 3gb total of unused memory. No crashes. I posted Luthier about the 3GB switch and his patch crashes. Hopefully he is listening because it does make a difference if the program you are running is ram intensive. The switch changes the addressing. Moves some from the operating system to the program. Maybe CLoD is pushing the standard xp addressing allocation to the limit? I wouldn't be suprised if it was.

HR_Naglfar 10-05-2011 02:58 PM

I have better performance with XP than with W7 :grin:

Pudfark 10-05-2011 03:26 PM

Well, I understand the poll...however IMHO it is lacking in definition.
I believe the poll should have reflected something like this...

XP-32
XP-64
W7-32
W7-64 Home
W7-64 Pro
W7-64 Ult
Other?

Then post your reasons why you run whatever....
To post that XP runs better than W7 and not state
which version of W7 is meaningless to everyone...
Their is a huge difference between the 32 bit and 64 bit
versions in performance...and there is a huge, IMHO,
difference in W7 64 Home to W7 64 Pro & Ult....

Further to compare XP 32 to W7 32 is essentially apples to apples,
performance wise...(mem limitations).

Seems to me we need a "bi-poller" to get the true view...;)

II./JG1_Wilcke 10-05-2011 03:40 PM

On my gaming rig I went from XP Pro 32bit SP3, directly to a fresh install of Win 7 Pro 64bit over a year ago. I can run as much RAM as I can afford.

I have never looked back.

I have to admit that XP was a very robust OS. But I completely skipped the Vista experience.

TUSA/TX-Gunslinger 10-05-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitrous (Post 344206)
XP = Dx9 only
Win 7 = Dx10 and 11

And

XP = 4gb RAM max.
Win 7 64bit = 16gb RAM max (or possibly higher)

That's good enough a warrant upgrading for me.
Oh BTW before anyone says it. That dx10 hack for xp does not really work.

I'm sure you know this but, just in case anyone misunderstood - Win7 runs DX9 also.

I did have Vista 64 prior to Win 7 64. The instablity in Vista occured early in it's release. I didn't have a lot of problems with it during the 14 months or so I used it.

Win 7 64 has been stable as a rock. Much better looking, much more secure and convienant O/S than XP in my experience at home and at work.

Many large organizations are migrating as fast as they can to Win 7 due to security.

S!

Gunny

MadBlaster 10-05-2011 04:22 PM

Suprised no one has mentioned Window 8 in this thread yet. I read business can't wait to spend more money for that!:rolleyes: Windows 7, obsolete in just few months guys. :-P So I think I'll just skip it.

Really, don't you think the constant pc upgrade battle gets old after a while? I can play atari centipede or asteroids and still have fun.

Vengeanze 10-05-2011 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudfark (Post 344322)
Well, I understand the poll...however IMHO it is lacking in definition.
I believe the poll should have reflected something like this...

XP-32
XP-64
W7-32
W7-64 Home
W7-64 Pro
W7-64 Ult
Other?

Then post your reasons why you run whatever....
To post that XP runs better than W7 and not state
which version of W7 is meaningless to everyone...
Their is a huge difference between the 32 bit and 64 bit
versions in performance...and there is a huge, IMHO,
difference in W7 64 Home to W7 64 Pro & Ult....

Further to compare XP 32 to W7 32 is essentially apples to apples,
performance wise...(mem limitations).

Seems to me we need a "bi-poller" to get the true view...;)

I also "forgot" Vista32/64, srv03 32/64, srv08/R2 and everything inbetween.
Well u make the poll. ;-)

Fact is Windows XP Professional x64 Edition was released 2005 and W7 was released in 2009.
Crippled Windows 7 home edt with no bells and whistles beats XP64 pro extra plus super deluxe. It's in the core a better OS. Simple as that.

So I wanted to know why people use XP any version before W7 any version.:grin:

MD_Titus 10-05-2011 04:40 PM

because they do, simple as that.

calling for XP support to be dropped is retarded and selfish.

1946 was playable on win98 machines.

slm 10-05-2011 04:42 PM

I have no intention to install Windows7 to my current PC. I'll get a new 64bit Win7 PC sometime in the future, but I'm not in hurry because all other SW I use works well in XP.

Pudfark 10-05-2011 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vengeanze (Post 344396)
I also "forgot" Vista32/64, srv03 32/64, srv08/R2 and everything inbetween.
Well u make the poll. ;-)

Fact is Windows XP Professional x64 Edition was released 2005 and W7 was released in 2009.
Crippled Windows 7 home edt with no bells and whistles beats XP64 pro extra plus super deluxe. It's in the core a better OS. Simple as that.

So I wanted to know why people use XP any version before W7 any version.:grin:

:)Wasn't trying to sound or be critical...and your explanation makes good sense.

I'll go out on a limb and say this.....to everybody.
If you're not running an SSD with W7 64 Pro or Ult on your system?
And you are capable? Both financially and hardware wise to do it?
You have no idea of what you are missing out on....The cheapest speed
you will ever purchase. It doesn't matter if you have AMD or Intel system...Desktop or Laptop.

A lot of folks here are far smarter than me and I acknowledge that...
Some of y'all are plumb brilliant...:)

Thanks...


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