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JG52Uther 08-08-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellonet (Post 321217)
Voice activation would probably be a immersion killer for me, feels like it fits better in a sci-fi game.

In WW2 they didn't press a series of keys to tell their flight to change formation or break, they said the command out loud over the radio...
Voice activation for wingman commands is more realistic, not less.

David198502 08-08-2011 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellonet (Post 321217)
Voice activation would probably be a immersion killer for me, feels like it fits better in a sci-fi game.

i think it adds a lot immersion, when used for radio commands.much more realistic than using keystrokes.but i wouldnt use it to control the aircraft or changing view.

unreasonable 08-08-2011 02:00 PM

Agreed - I used VAC with IL2 classic on my long SP DCG campaigns, only for formation orders - and "Help!" - worked well. For new users probably best to start with a preprogrammed template and only use a few simple orders until it feels more natural.

Ordering your aeroplane to lower it's gear, however, is just wierd.

Dano 08-08-2011 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellonet (Post 321217)
Voice activation would probably be a immersion killer for me, feels like it fits better in a sci-fi game.

Lol, how do you think they did it in real life?

ATAG_Snapper 08-08-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dano (Post 321240)
Lol, how do you think they did it in real life?

Well, that was my thinking. LOL

What a few folks have missed is that voice/sound confirmation doesn't HAVE to be activated. You say the command and your flight or wingman either does what you say or, if they don't - repeat the command. Don't see what is so science fiction about that! :rolleyes:

ATAG_Snapper 08-08-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc_uk (Post 321104)
Can you upload your vac profile for Cod? would like to try it out:)

OK, let me know if this works. Copy and paste this as a Notepad text file to your hardrive.

Start up VACBuilder 2.6.0

Go to Files

Go to Import

Select Text File (txt)

Then point to the saved Notepad text file you've copied from below. I think that will then show up as a profile in your own VACSystem.

Good luck!

Action: Wheels Up
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE - g
Phrase 1: Wheels Up
Action: Wheels down
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE - g
Phrase 1: Wheels down
Action: Flaps up
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE - f
Phrase 1: Flaps up
Action: flaps down
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE - f
Phrase 1: flaps down
Action: Two
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE - 2
Phrase 1: Two
Action: Three
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE - 3
Phrase 1: Three
Action: Four
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE - 4
Phrase 1: Four
Action: Five
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE - 5
Phrase 1: Five
Action: Six
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE - 6
Phrase 1: Six
Action: Seven
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE - 7
Phrase 1: Seven
Action: Eight
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE - 8
Phrase 1: Eight
Action: Nine
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE - 9
Phrase 1: Nine
Action: Zero
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE - 0
Phrase 1: Zero
Action: Near View
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE -
Phrase 1: Near View
Action: Middle View
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE -
Phrase 1: Middle View
Action: Wide view
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE -
Phrase 1: Wide View
Action: Tab
Cmds 1: NONE - TAB -
Phrase 1: Tab
Action: One
Cmds 1: NONE - NONE - 1
Phrase 1: One
Action: Ready for take off
Cmds 1: NONE - TAB -
Cmds 2: NONE - NONE - 0
Cmds 3: NONE - NONE - 5
Phrase 1: Ready for take off
Action: Echelon Right
Cmds 1: NONE - TAB -
Cmds 2: NONE - NONE - 4
Cmds 3: NONE - NONE - 1
Cmds 4: NONE - NONE - 1
Phrase 1: Echelon Right
Action: Echelon left
Cmds 1: NONE - TAB -
Cmds 2: NONE - NONE - 4
Cmds 3: NONE - NONE - 1
Cmds 4: NONE - NONE - 2
Phrase 1: Echelon left
Action: Vic Formation
Cmds 1: NONE - TAB -
Cmds 2: NONE - NONE - 4
Cmds 3: NONE - NONE - 1
Cmds 4: NONE - NONE - 3
Phrase 1: Vic Formation
Action: Finger Four
Cmds 1: NONE - TAB -
Cmds 2: NONE - NONE - 4
Cmds 3: NONE - NONE - 1
Cmds 4: NONE - NONE - 4
Phrase 1: Finger Four
Action: Diamond Formation
Cmds 1: NONE - TAB -
Cmds 2: NONE - NONE - 4
Cmds 3: NONE - NONE - 1
Cmds 4: NONE - NONE - 5
Phrase 1: Diamond Formation
Action: Line Abreast
Cmds 1: NONE - TAB -
Cmds 2: NONE - NONE - 4
Cmds 3: NONE - NONE - 1
Cmds 4: NONE - NONE - 6
Phrase 1: Line Abreast
Action: Line Astern
Cmds 1: NONE - TAB -
Cmds 2: NONE - NONE - 4
Cmds 3: NONE - NONE - 1
Cmds 4: NONE - NONE - 7
Phrase 1: Line Astern
Action: Spacing Close
Cmds 1: NONE - TAB -
Cmds 2: NONE - NONE - 4
Cmds 3: NONE - NONE - 1
Cmds 4: NONE - NONE - 8
Cmds 5: NONE - NONE - 1
Phrase 1: Spacing Close
Action: Spacing Near
Cmds 1: NONE - TAB -
Cmds 2: NONE - NONE - 4
Cmds 3: NONE - NONE - 1
Cmds 4: NONE - NONE - 8
Cmds 5: NONE - NONE - 2
Phrase 1: Spacing Near
Action: Spacing Middle
Cmds 1: NONE - TAB -
Cmds 2: NONE - NONE - 4
Cmds 3: NONE - NONE - 1
Cmds 4: NONE - NONE - 8
Cmds 5: NONE - NONE - 3
Phrase 1: Spacing Middle
Action: Spacing Far
Cmds 1: NONE - TAB -
Cmds 2: NONE - NONE - 4
Cmds 3: NONE - NONE - 1
Cmds 4: NONE - NONE - 8
Cmds 5: NONE - NONE - 4
Phrase 1: Spacing Far
Action: Break Break Break
Cmds 1: NONE - TAB -
Cmds 2: NONE - NONE - 4
Cmds 3: NONE - NONE - 1
Cmds 4: NONE - NONE - 8
Cmds 5: NONE - NONE - 4
Phrase 1: Break Break Break
Action: Help Me
Cmds 1: NONE - TAB -
Cmds 2: NONE - NONE - 2
Phrase 1: Help Me

klem 08-08-2011 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 321227)
i think it adds a lot immersion, when used for radio commands.much more realistic than using keystrokes.but i wouldnt use it to control the aircraft or changing view.

+1

Also, I wonder if it would be possible to record a series of phrases to type into the chat box:

"Chatbox"--> send ` key
"Landing Manston Damaged" ---> send phrase keys into chatbox
"RedChannel" ----> send change of recipient keys
"Enter"---> send Enter key

ATAG_Snapper 08-08-2011 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klem (Post 321300)
+1

Also, I wonder if it would be possible to record a series of phrases to type into the chat box:

"Chatbox"--> send ` key
"Landing Manston Damaged" ---> send phrase keys into chatbox
"RedChannel" ----> send change of recipient keys
"Enter"---> send Enter key

Klem, certainly three of the functions above are possible (Chatbox, RedChannel, Enter). Not sure about the Landing Manston Damaged function. If I understand you correctly, that involves actively changing speech to text on the fly which I don't think DWVAC can do as you describe. Hopefully I'm wrong on that -- what a fantastic function that would be. It's so hard typing with one hand while trying to hold the stick steady and watching the screen with peripheral vision.

If anyone knows, please pass it the "how-to"!

klem 08-08-2011 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapper (Post 321309)
Klem, certainly three of the functions above are possible (Chatbox, RedChannel, Enter). Not sure about the Landing Manston Damaged function. If I understand you correctly, that involves actively changing speech to text on the fly which I don't think DWVAC can do as you describe. Hopefully I'm wrong on that -- what a fantastic function that would be. It's so hard typing with one hand while trying to hold the stick steady and watching the screen with peripheral vision.

If anyone knows, please pass it the "how-to"!

I was hoping that as a text string can be sent I could send some long ones :)

ATAG_Snapper 08-08-2011 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klem (Post 321427)
I was hoping that as a text string can be sent I could send some long ones :)

You've asked an intriguing question. To a certain degree I think you can with some standard text comms.

Example: you say "Returning to base!" DWVAC is then programmed to enter "rtb" in the text window without you having to hit the keyboard at all.
This is how it could be programmed (I think):

Text phrase: Returning to Base (this is what you actually say)

Command 1: `
Command 2: r
Command 3: t
Command 4: b
Command 5: ENTER

Gonna have to try this out! :)


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