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carguy_ 07-07-2011 10:10 AM

Some charts to prove it maybe?:grin:

Sternjaeger 07-07-2011 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by carguy_ (Post 306387)
Some charts to prove it maybe?:grin:

hehehehe even better, I can suggest books ;)

http://www.amazon.com/Fundamentals-A...0035029&sr=8-1

or, just to make it easier (for some of our thicker forum members..)

http://www.amazon.com/Physics-Dummie...0035004&sr=8-1

If you want an empirical demonstration of what I'm saying, get yourself a cooling fan and a matchstick. The fan will simulate the slipstream of the propeller and the matchstick will be your puff of smoke.. light the matchstick, put it in the slipstream of the fan and see how long the smoke lingers..

JG52Krupi 07-07-2011 10:49 AM

I can't quite believe this thread has reached three pages... O.o

Walshy 07-07-2011 01:53 PM

Oh gawd is this still going ............

philip.ed 07-07-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 306383)
I'm sorry but I disagree mate. Smoke shouldn't linger because the laws of physics say otherwise. As for the troll issue, I believe you're defending one on this stand.

Smoke doesn't just disappear, it will dissipate but smoothly. Obviously, at the speed the planes are travelling, you probably won't be in a position to notce this process, but this is not the case in CloD.
Just watch any gun-cam videos, and one can see the smoke which comes out from an A/C when hit comes out smoothly. It doesn't just appear and then disappear. This should be a relatively easy fix, it's not something major (unless the damage effects in-game are not future-proofed).

I'm not bothered if the OP has trolled before. I saw the other topic and laughed, but despite the phrasing here, what he is pointing out is an issue that was in the original Il-2, and is clearly in CloD, too.

Sternjaeger 07-07-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 306473)
Smoke doesn't just disappear, it will dissipate but smoothly. Obviously, at the speed the planes are travelling, you probably won't be in a position to notce this process, but this is not the case in CloD.
Just watch any gun-cam videos, and one can see the smoke which comes out from an A/C when hit comes out smoothly. It doesn't just appear and then disappear. This should be a relatively easy fix, it's not something major (unless the damage effects in-game are not future-proofed).

I'm not bothered if the OP has trolled before. I saw the other topic and laughed, but despite the phrasing here, what he is pointing out is an issue that was in the original Il-2, and is clearly in CloD, too.

Fair enough. Can you please link me to any guncamera footage that shows the hits and smoke? Mind you though, I would need it from .303 armed planes and MG/FF armed ones.

philip.ed 07-07-2011 05:01 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv8rFPLN_Fg
not too hard to find by yourself, TBH :cool: Obviously effects like the smoke vortex are complex to model, but it shows the general idea.
This applies to all smoke, BTW. Notice that when an A/C crahses in CloD, some of the smoke disappears very quickly.


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