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Once, I was shot down by a couple of bullets in the nose of my plane. Tac -tac, and the engine began immediately to emit creaking and squeaking sounds, losing power and stopping after a couple of minutes… The gun was an Mg15 (Stuka gunner) and my plane an armoured Il2… Hardly realistic.
In another occasion, while flying with a cannon armed La5, I set on fire a PZL P11. It burned furiously, and went ahead for a loooong time flying excellent evasive manoeuvres without any hint of diminished performances (or pilot’s cooking). I think sometimes strange things happen, and are almost certainly result of random errors, having nothing to do with damage models. I think that reports about single events are of little value. What we need are consistent experiments, repeatable by others, like a sort of peer review. Pursuivant demonstrates that can be done, and that results are sometimes surprising. I believe that further test will bring more surprises. And also think that Il2 remains a fantastic game, still a lot of fun after so many years, a monument to original developers and to the continuing work being done today. |
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It is quite vulnerable to hits to the oil cooler and coolant radiator. The sort of damage you describes perfectly matches the effects of a hit to either of those. Additionally, there are gap in the armor where the exhaust stacks emerge from the engine - so a hit there will quickly stop the engine. Quote:
That said, the P.11c had the unusual ability to jettison the fuel tank in event of a fire. Realistically, if you're in a burning P.11c, you dump the fuel tank and try to glide away from the fight. Quote:
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The IL2 had ~5mm of armor around the cockpit sides and just behind the canopy, plus armor glass at the front and a heavier armor plate behind the pilot's head. At close range (i.e., 100 m or less) a 7.62mm AP bullet can punch through the side armor, even at an angle. This thread nicely explains penetration of German 7.62mm bullets vs. armor plate and aircraft aluminum: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=72990 |
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But I think we digress at least a little. I hope I have time to do a more in detail review of test results this weekend. |
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Sometimes this is realistic, sometimes there is an artificial gap due to the way that IL2 models the intersection of armor plate and armor glass ahead of the cockpit. Looking at the armor diagrams for the IL2, I think that there is a gap in the protection for the pilot though the canopy from 12 o'clock high and from 1-2 o'clock & 10-11 o'clock level or high. After all, the canopy couldn't be armored that heavily because it had to be light enough to slide or jettison in a hurry. Additionally, at 100-200m, a 7.62mm AP bullet might have just enough energy to punch through 5 mm of armor plate, especially if it was a head-on shot where the bullet's speed is combined with the speed of the oncoming aircraft. But, I don't know how sophisticated IL2's armor penetration algorithms are. So, I don't know if it takes things like target speed or angle of impact into account when determining penetration or damage. |
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