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kendo65 04-25-2011 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff (Post 272719)
because, in 2001 this sim call it Forgotten Battles: Russia (RED) Vs. Germany (Blue). catch it? it means red are the bad guys and blue the good ;)

I can't really agree that Nazi Germany were the good guys in WW2.....!?!

kimosabi 04-25-2011 02:09 PM

And Ivan Drago was wearing red trunks in Rocky IV.

Foo'bar 04-25-2011 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kendo65 (Post 272988)
I can't really agree that Nazi Germany were the good guys in WW2.....!?!

Were there any good ones either?

jg27_mc 04-25-2011 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lixma (Post 272728)
1. British Empire and British Commonwealth Nations
2. Herman Goering
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?

ROTFL :grin:

+1

TUSA/TX-Gunslinger 04-25-2011 05:13 PM

Nice revisit to a 10 year old convention, Seiseki. +1 for Balls.

I think a large reason to not change this is actually "tradition".

Traditionally these colors are etched in our brains and it's one less thing to worry with increased workload, detail, situational awareness that comes with a much higher fidelty simulation.

Keep it the same. No reason to change now.

S!

Gunny

1.JaVA_Platypus 04-25-2011 05:40 PM

Yeah, we're now a month or so into this game, let's change the colors of the teams!!!!!

Furio 04-25-2011 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TUSA/TX-Gunslinger (Post 273116)
Nice revisit to a 10 year old convention, Seiseki. +1 for Balls.

I think a large reason to not change this is actually "tradition".

Traditionally these colors are etched in our brains and it's one less thing to worry with increased workload, detail, situational awareness that comes with a much higher fidelty simulation.

Keep it the same. No reason to change now.

S!

Gunny

Well said. Totally agree with you, Gunny.
By the way, if you look at the matter from a political point of view, surely the colour for Fascists and Nazis was black, while you know who had Red Guards and the Order of Red Banner, and celebrated Red October.
By the way, 80% of war in Europe was Blacks versus Reds.

My opinion? Keep Red and Blue as they are, please. It’s just a fine Il2 Sturmovik tradition.

pupo162 04-25-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nats (Post 273232)
Balls. Since when was Russia ever considered Europe? I take it you arent from Europe to say something stupid like that. Who gives a stuff about the Russians when you are playing a game about the Battle of Britain which was about the British against the Germans?

I couldnt give a damn about Il2 'tradition' either. For me the good guys are always blue and the bad guys are red, simple as that.

But for me playing 'blue and red teams' is a complete put off that immediately says to me I am playing a crap computer game and not a decent simulation. In real life it was all about the Allies and the Axis.

But if you want a decent 'tradition' WW2 model soldiers were always green for the allies and blue for the germans so why not do it like that - far more sensible that some unheard of IL2 tradition.

??

red = allies
Blue = axis

why complciate things?

Kongo-Otto 04-25-2011 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by seiseki (Post 272586)
Why not Axis and Allies?
This has always kinda bothered me, since it makes me think more about Halo, Team Fortress 2 or somekind of arcade teambased game..

Also, if you take the colours of the allied flags and roundels into account, they're blue/red/white..

While the axis has red/white/black.. So it would make more sense for the axis to be the red team, and allies be the blue team..

Please, for the sake of immersion, get rid of this whole blue/red team deal and called them axis and allies.

I can see the lawsuit clearly in front of my eyes, filed for about 45 Gazillion Dollar from the Company which hold the rights for a game called "Axis and Allies". ;)
But why not, lets have another Northrop-Greedman style lawsuit.:rolleyes:

kendo65 04-25-2011 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nats (Post 273232)
Balls. Since when was Russia ever considered Europe? I take it you arent from Europe to say something stupid like that. Who gives a stuff about the Russians when you are playing a game about the Battle of Britain which was about the British against the Germans?

I couldnt give a damn about Il2 'tradition' either. For me the good guys are always blue and the bad guys are red, simple as that.

But for me playing 'blue and red teams' is a complete put off that immediately says to me I am playing a crap computer game and not a decent simulation. In real life it was all about the Allies and the Axis.

But if you want a decent 'tradition' WW2 model soldiers were always green for the allies and blue for the germans so why not do it like that - far more sensible that some unheard of IL2 tradition.

From wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia#Geography

Russia is also the ninth most populous nation with 143 million people.[9] It extends across the whole of northern Asia and 40% of Europe, spanning 9 time zones and incorporating a wide range of environments and landforms.

Apart from that your post is quite possibly the biggest pile of bollocks I have had the misfortune to read on this forum.


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