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335th_GRAthos 04-19-2011 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nigelmcelwee (Post 267883)
I dont think thats the issue either. I have an obsidian gaming case. This thing has a giant circular mesh inlet on the top of the case about 15 inches long and 5 inches wide for extra air. Thats 75 square inches of extra air inlet to cool my equipment. Just gotta be careful not to spill anything on the case!

He, he, now you are on the grill.... PHOTOS please !

And do not tell it is the one with the PSU at the bottom (=sucking air out from the bottom of the case) and the big fun from the top (=sucking air out from the top of the case) ?
Great stuff, so, where does the cool air from outside get inside the case?
I see a bigger airflow chalenge than you think... ;-)

Make your life simpler, get a thermometer and place it near the air fan of your 580GTX. Look at the air temperature your GPU cooler is taking in order to cool down your GPU.
If it is too high then this is the start of te things to fix.

The other remains your 99% which hopefully will be fixed by your new NV drivers.


Good luck!

swiss 04-19-2011 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos (Post 267911)
He, he, now you are on the grill.... PHOTOS please !

And do not tell it is the one with the PSU at the bottom (=sucking air out from the bottom of the case) and the big fun from the top (=sucking air out from the top of the case) ?
Great stuff, so, where does the cool air from outside get inside the case?
I see a bigger airflow chalenge than you think... ;-)

Make your life simpler, get a thermometer and place it near the air fan of your 580GTX. Look at the air temperature your GPU cooler is taking in order to cool down your GPU.
If it is too high then this is the start of te things to fix.

The other remains your 99% which hopefully will be fixed by your new NV drivers.


Good luck!


I'm not sure I can quite follow you.
Why would a PSU at the bottom blow cool air, from within the case, out?
http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/6...r600tupdat.jpg

335th_GRAthos 04-19-2011 03:45 PM

If this is your setup then you should be lucky that your GPUs are only at 90°C !
They should be melting by now!!!!!
Very bad unfortunately.

Notice where the fans of the GPU are and try to think how cool air from the outside of the case, will manage to reach that area. It will not because the two big fans down and up will channel the air flow towards them NOT towards the centre of the case where the GPU fans are.

You need to put a fan on the side panel, just there where the GPU fans are, pushing air into them. If I manage, I will find a picture of my old rig to show you what I mean.
Edit... got one picture, it is a bit old (from 2006, it is two 7900GTX on the picture) but it shows what I mean: A big fan (slow rotating) throwing air directly into the fans of the GPU (the reason for this setup was to throw air to the chipset fan which can hardly be seen between the two GPUs which was not effective enough and had to be watercooled, but that is another story).
http://www.stoimenos.com/temp/CoD/7900GTX_2.JPG

It is my opinion (and you do not need to pay respect to it), this case is trouble...

Anyway, you can only check with a thermometer in the area of the GPUs all the rest is pure speculation. Get one of those house thermometers with a small sensor for the outside the house temperature. You put the small sensor near your GPUs and you can easily measure the temparature from the display outside.

Lot's of fun!

JumpingHubert 04-19-2011 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nigelmcelwee (Post 267883)
I dont think thats the issue either. I have an obsidian gaming case. This thing has a giant circular mesh inlet on the top of the case about 15 inches long and 5 inches wide for extra air. Thats 75 square inches of extra air inlet to cool my equipment. Just gotta be careful not to spill anything on the case!

I don´t understand whats the problem: you have high temps in COD. So you have to make better cooling (change heat paste of gpu or add a fan to your card or whatever) or play another game. There are no other alternatives. Logic. Why this thread is growing and growing....stupid.

nigelmcelwee 04-19-2011 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos (Post 268066)
If this is your setup then you should be lucky that your GPUs are only at 90°C !
They should be melting by now!!!!!
Very bad unfortunately.

Notice where the fans of the GPU are and try to think how cool air from the outside of the case, will manage to reach that area. It will not because the two big fans down and up will channel the air flow towards them NOT towards the centre of the case where the GPU fans are.

You need to put a fan on the side panel, just there where the GPU fans are, pushing air into them. If I manage, I will find a picture of my old rig to show you what I mean.
Edit... got one picture, it is a bit old (from 2006, it is two 7900GTX on the picture) but it shows what I mean: A big fan (slow rotating) throwing air directly into the fans of the GPU (the reason for this setup was to throw air to the chipset fan which can hardly be seen between the two GPUs which was not effective enough and had to be watercooled, but that is another story).
http://www.stoimenos.com/temp/CoD/7900GTX_2.JPG

It is my opinion (and you do not need to pay respect to it), this case is trouble...

Anyway, you can only check with a thermometer in the area of the GPUs all the rest is pure speculation. Get one of those house thermometers with a small sensor for the outside the house temperature. You put the small sensor near your GPUs and you can easily measure the temparature from the display outside.

Lot's of fun!

Thats an interesting setup you have there. I am going to experiment and try to shave off around 10 celcius or more with all these suggestions. Those are some great ideas guys. I have never had a cooling issue before but maybe this game has unearthed a problem I wasnt aware I had. Perhaps 40-50 degrees celcius with no load is a tad too hot for the GPU. I am going to do some fan experimenting!!

swiss 04-19-2011 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos (Post 268066)
If this is your setup then you should be lucky that your GPUs are only at 90°C !

Mine?

No, first pic of the mentioned Corsair case on google.
I just checked, it does indeed lack any side vents.
Odd - given the fact it's a freakin' Corsair.

CBA_Bludawg 04-19-2011 08:35 PM

you need to get a great case mate not good but GREAT.

i have 6 gaming pc's in my house two retired as media servers hooked up to my flat screens. i use only 2 cases for all of them and i havent found a case that can run as cool as these do yet for the price.

my rig case*** Antec DF-85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-087-_-Product

others in my house use*** Coolermaster 932
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-160-_-Product

both are super quiet and run everything cool

my servers on my drilling rigs run like this and they are in extreme heat and dirt dust 24/7 Front sucks in cool air, top blows out heat
rear blows out heat, side blows out as well. in front of the front fans inside the case i have another blowing right onto the vid cards and mob. works perfectly!!!

335th_GRAthos 04-19-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBA_Bludawg (Post 268298)
others in my house use*** Coolermaster 932
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-160-_-Product


Now this is what I call a BIG SIDE FAN ! :-O


@Swiss: sorry, I thought it was a pic of nigelmcelwee's rig! Three GPUs inside!

@nigelmcelwee: It will definitively solve some of your issues but nevertheless, it is not normal that your GPU works 99% all time. My 570 works at 40% above sea, above ground 70%-90% (all numbers as per GPU-Z) so, if you have 99% all time something is not right...
You never mentioned the anylysis you fly at though...

Lot's of fun!

~S~

Thee_oddball 04-19-2011 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baffa (Post 267780)
Don't be silly :) Obviously something is wrong here, no game should never have a constant max load.

Show me any game in the World that have this exact behaviour as we have here.

so your saying that even though i have my card over clocked as far as it can be that it still should not be at %100 load on the GPU?

swiss 04-19-2011 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thee_oddball (Post 268375)
so your saying that even though i have my card over clocked as far as it can be that it still should not be at %100 load on the GPU?

Wtf, are you raaid?

Where's the connection between an OC'd GPU and the load applied by a game?


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