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15JG52_Brauer 04-03-2011 01:41 AM

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1.2gb free flight over London - see attached screenshot - PS loads showing zero as I had to go back to desktop for screenshot - in game 99% GPU load on 1st GPU - 2nd idle (SLI not working - as we already know)

jimbop 04-03-2011 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Armatian (Post 250289)
It surely has to do with the dreaded draw calls, amd guy talked about it days ago, crappy console hardware can easily outdo the fastest gpu on the market, due to api overhead.

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On consoles, you can draw maybe 10,000 or 20,000 chunks of geometry in a frame, and you can do that at 30-60fps. On a PC, you can't typically draw more than 2-3,000 without getting into trouble with performance, and that's quite surprising - the PC can actually show you only a tenth of the performance if you need a separate batch for each draw call.

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link: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...l-to-directx/1

I think that is pretty consistent, gpu usage doesn't reveal exactly which part of the gpu isn't being used, but i bet that a lot of overhead without actual rendering is part of the issue.
Of course i'm not trying to imply that i exactly know what is going on with this particular engine, but i think we all agree that the newest hardware should manage much more on CoD, so let see if developers manage to tame the beast and make the gpu spit some pixels.

thanks, interesting

T}{OR 04-03-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hecke (Post 250035)
Hey guys,

What is the max. amount of VRAM CloD uses atm if the GFX card has enough?
And what will give the most performance?
I will chose my GFX card according to this.

Does it use ...
> 2 GB or close to --> GTX 580 (3 GB)
> 1,5 GB or close to --> Ati 6970 (2 GB)
< 1,5 GB --> GTX 580 (1,5 GB)

There was only one guy I saw using a 3GB 580. And he is the only one capable of getting "40 FPS in the dreaded bombers-over-London mission" (settings on medium and high; 1920X1200 resolution). He says it runs silky smooth.

Here is the thread:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...3256483/1.html

The game will use up all available VRAM:

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7258/142zk.jpg

So, for me the choice is obvious. :)

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Originally Posted by He111 (Post 250307)
The 6990 is a great card but with pathetic cooling, search Youtube, you won't be able to hear anything with the fan runnning. Wait for Gigabyte etc to release tri-fan 6990, Or better look at GTX 590 .

ok, 2 GPUS won't improve VRAM but doubling GPUS surely will

He111.

It won't. Not sure about CF and ATI cards, but with Nvidia and SLI even when you pair the two cards in SLI - you get the maximum amount of VRAM of a single card - it does not double up!

The common mistake nowadays is that dual GPU cards are the solution. They aren't. Dual GPU cards = CF or SLI "on a stick", with much worse cooling / loudness / chance to crap out on you.

Kankkis 04-03-2011 10:31 AM

If crossfire is supported i think it uses whole cf card memory, i have 5970 2mb

If it not supported it uses half, why even put 2gb if allways only half is used?

Kankkis

T}{OR 04-03-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kankkis (Post 250592)
If crossfire is supported i think it uses whole cf card memory, i have 5970 2mb

If it not supported it uses half, why even put 2gb if allways only half is used?

Kankkis

That 5970 doesn't help you a lot. Even when CF starts to become supported - you will still have 1GB of VRAM at your disposal. It will run "twice as fast" but you won't have twice as much of VRAM.

As if you're running 2 x 1GB cards. Their total amount is 2GB, but this accounts for speed only. You might as well have an Nvidia card with 1GB or VRAM right now.

This is why single GPU cards have the advantage here with CoD. 6970 2GB and 580 3GB are currently the best cards you can get for CoD.

Slechtvalk 04-03-2011 10:47 AM

Nah, I have seen picture from someone with a 5970 from the setup from ROF, he had 2 gig memory which he could use.

adonys 04-03-2011 10:49 AM

I don't know for sure, but dual GPU cards might have their memory shared (like in they both can access it all, so the data can be loaded through all memory, not separated for each GPU in its own memory). I need to check this.

yet, I would say do not buy no new hardware at least 1 month from now on. there's no point in doing it without knowing the engine's behavior after the few initial optimization patches.

T}{OR 04-03-2011 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by adonys (Post 250614)
I don't know for sure, but dual GPU cards might have their memory shared (like in they both can access it all, so the data can be loaded through all memory, not separated for each GPU in its own memory). I need to check this.

I am certain that in SLI your memory doesn't double up.

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Originally Posted by adonys (Post 250614)
yet, I would say do not buy no new hardware at least 1 month from now on. there's no point in doing it without knowing the engine's behavior after the few initial optimization patches.

That is the best advice right there.

Kankkis 04-03-2011 11:10 AM

If i put max graphics setting on rof it shows 51% video memory usage, so there is must be more than 1mb then.

Kankkis

adonys 04-03-2011 11:16 AM

what;s your setting mate? SLI with how much vram on each card? Can you do an AIDA test, please?


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