Heh I have seen it more than once, a great movie indeed.

we can never understand why the UK gets movie releases weeks later than the USA, anyone know why ?

Ordering from steam..

Ubi said if you have a boxed version, including CE you need internet to initialize the software with steam. If you have boxed version after you initialize your software you can play offline anytime without logon to steam.

So.. they specifically indicate if you have boxed version. I conclude, if you don't have boxed version you cannot play offline without being Online with steam.

In other words, if you have steam version regardless you must be online to play, even if you are playing on your own computer and not online server.

Correct me, if I'm wrong. I was just reading carefully the message given about boxed versions.

If the above is correct, then I definitely will buy only a boxed version of COD.

Internet connections can be fickle, and fail. Not that it would cost me anything financially, if the connection failed.

I just feel, if I have to be online all the time to play whether I'm online server or only on my local PC that is a recipe for trouble.

well then we have a mutual misunderstanding, don't we?? :rolleyes:

Thats a bit of a jump/assumption. Not saying its wrong but I didnt read anything in that quote to say steam was not the same deal, as all steam games can be played offline after initial dl.

Also they need to check the 500s for compatibility ASAP, nvidia has ceased manufacturing 400s since months ago so all that is left are the cards already stocked (new stock will only be 500s).

Good news indeed, thats 30 million accounts that will have that information shown to them the next time they log in, even if just 5% decided to pick it up thats 1.5 million potential sales which should more than cover the naysayers living under their tin foil hats that won't buy because of Steam.

Doubt it. Constant internet connection would have to be in the system requirements as it was for the last round of notorious ubi titles. Constant online was ubi's idea and opposed by steam.

I doubt that as well.

STEAM-Games don't require constant online-connection per se. Especially not those with STEAM-DRM. They can be played offline and also via LAN.

The only exclusions to this rule is the additional DRM built into some games, like it was for Rise of Flight. But obviously, that is not due to STEAM. We shouldn't jump to conclusions (especially those people shouldn't, who don't have ANY personal experience with STEAM at all...)

Yeah, as others have said, a bit off the mark there.

"Ubi said if you have a boxed version, including CE you need internet to initialize the software with steam." They didn't say you had to initialize with Steam, just that you had to initialize online. Seeing as we know SolidShield is involved, it's safer to assume they meant that, not Steam. And as they said later on that the DRM aspect of Steam wasn't being implemented on the boxed versions, it's pretty much certain that no, you won't have to initialize with Steam, but with SolidShield.

"If you have boxed version after you initialize your software you can play offline anytime without logon to steam." Given the above, yes, as Steam never enters the equation. But even if Steam were involved you could still play offline (even though the Steam program itself would have to be running, see second paragraph below).

"So.. they specifically indicate if you have boxed version." Yes, they make it clear there are differences between the boxed and downloadable versions. Whether there's a difference between downloadable versions from Steam and other vendors still isn't known.

"I conclude, if you don't have boxed version you cannot play offline without being Online with steam." No, you can always play offline with Steam if you want to. But the Steam client that you installed on your computer will always be running in the background if you want to play a Steam game. All your Steam games are effectively programs installed within the Steam program. You just choose whether or not you want the Steam program to be connected to the internet once you start the Steam program up to play your game through it.

"In other words, if you have steam version regardless you must be online to play, even if you are playing on your own computer and not online server." Again, no, you don't have to be online, but you do have to have the Steam client running on your computer in the background when you're playing a Steam game, online or offline.

All that said, there are still some missing pieces of information in regards to the boxed versions and whether or not they still require the Steam client/program to be installed at all, even if it's never used to connect to the internet.

Hey, I wouldn't argue with anything you guys mentioned.

After years of working with software I've learned a few things.

If it's not said, it's not there or if it's not said to match your needs it's probably not there.

So, I guess we could use a better articulation for OFFLINE players.

I appreciate all the responses, but does anyone agree we need a better explanation.

Afterall, like everyone else I can buy DL from steam and be onboard the date of release, otherwise I have to wait additional time.

So, if I can't be OFFLINE and do OFFLINE play without being connected to internet I'd better wait to acquire a hard copy.

As it is now, I will buy hard copy only. No sense to buy steam DL version and pay again to buy Boxed version,because I am principally Offline player