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EJGr.Ost_Caspar 02-15-2011 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Zorin (Post 224543)
Well, that is clearly a Spitfire F Mk 22. Kind of out of context with the first two being delivered in June/July 1947.

Well... taken all the available '46 and 'what if' content into account, it would still be a nice addition. "Einem geschenkten Gaul..." - oder? ;)

Zorin 02-15-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 224566)
Well... taken all the available '46 and 'what if' content into account, it would still be a nice addition. "Einem geschenkten Gaul..." - oder? ;)

Under that aspect, of course. Any addition is a good thing.

Biggs Su-2 02-16-2011 12:47 PM

Caspar,

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You mean, it was meant to be included by Oleg, prior to the illegal opening of the game files? Then there is a chance, that you made it up to the direction of the demanded standards? Sounds interesting.

Is that an ingame screen or a rendering?
That was the plan. It's a bit academic really, there's not much left of the original, other than LOD 0 I think. The c/p disappeared somewhere, so that'd have to built from scratch again. I'm just trying to remember the name of the fellow who was building a MkXIV. He'd built the geometry/damage/LOD's, when the window closed, IIRC he was working on the textures. Shame really.
Yep it was a render I took, before life got in the way, lol. S'funny...I was having a dig through some old FB files found the materials and stuff I used on the Su-2...Ahh happy days :)

Zorin,

If I remember my history correctly, the first production Mk22 flew in March 1945 (which at the time I took part in 3rd party), was still ok for inclusion as the rules stood at that time. If I'd had time it might have ended up in the 'what if'.

malta knight 02-23-2011 06:55 PM

spit with griffon engine
 
Come on Daidalos team dont tell me you havn`t got the resources to build up a spit mk14. Taking into consideration other planes in the sim which i most certainly know where less documented,im sure even with a little help from some knowlegable guys you will be able to come out with results. Considering the fact that you included planes that didn`t even do combat flights during the war,and excluding the spitfire mk14 which did service from 1943 onwards, in my point of view is a bit awkward.

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 02-23-2011 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggs Su-2 (Post 224781)
That was the plan. It's a bit academic really, there's not much left of the original, other than LOD 0 I think. The c/p disappeared somewhere, so that'd have to built from scratch again. I'm just trying to remember the name of the fellow who was building a MkXIV. He'd built the geometry/damage/LOD's, when the window closed, IIRC he was working on the textures. Shame really.
Yep it was a render I took, before life got in the way, lol. S'funny...I was having a dig through some old FB files found the materials and stuff I used on the Su-2...Ahh happy days :)

I see. If you find some happy new about it... don't hesitate to make some noise. ;-)



@Malta Knight: no... in fact we currently don't have that much resources for making it on our own... if you speak about manpower and not manuals/pics.

IceFire 02-24-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by lane (Post 224431)
I find the lack of Spitfire Mk I and Mk XIV in this sim after all these years to be totally perplexing.

Actually there's a very good reason for it initially.

Oleg's team never gave us any Spitfires on their own. Two community members plus all of the help they got was the reason why we have the Spitfire models we do. Gibbage did the Mark Vb and IX and Nyme did the Mark Vc, Seafire III and Spitfire VIII for Pacific Fighters. The ones for Pacific Fighters were because of their relevance in the Pacific theater and the ones Gibbage did were the ones that the Russians used as lend-lease aircraft.

A few more sub variants were added during Oleg's time and TD has added some more very useful sub variants as well.

So lacking the Mark I and XIV on the face of it is really quite sensible. There were two or three separate community efforts to produce a XIV during the window in which Oleg was still accepting aircraft but none were completed in time and most were not that far along anyways.

If someone has a XIV model done to Oleg standards then hopefully they come forward and submit it for possible inclusion or they work with TD to bring it up to the levels that it needs to be at. My fingers are crossed. I do still have some research materials on the XIV that may be of use but I'm not very talented with 3D modeling unfortunately.

WTE_Galway 02-24-2011 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 224566)
Well... taken all the available '46 and 'what if' content into account, it would still be a nice addition. "Einem geschenkten Gaul..." - oder? ;)

Rare bird except with auxiliaries.

The F24 saw more active service ... including Malaya.

Biggs Su-2 02-24-2011 09:03 AM

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I see. If you find some happy new about it... don't hesitate to make some noise.;)
Caspar,

Is the modelers guide still around? I seem to remember Ilya, or someone writing on all those years ago, had all the materials stuff and the rules for pivot points etc. It's all very hazy in the back of aging grey cells. I still remember the frustration of not being able try the mesh out in the engine before submitting it, is one of the reasons why I'm waiting with baited breath for the COD tools. I can only guess you guys have arrangement with 1C regarding the tools? If you get a mo, PM me on what the deal is. ;)

I'm not promising anything but maybe building a XIV, or something might be a good way of getting back into it again..Dunno we'll see.

Cheers,

Biggs

malta knight 02-24-2011 09:14 AM

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Caspar,I know youre all doing a wicked job and it takes more than pics and documentation to do it,so I am making a plea to all those who truly love this sim that is enjoyed by the thousands,so whoever can bring up the right material etc please dont hesitate so that we can fly this version of the plane that made history.thanks.

malta knight 02-25-2011 09:02 PM

spit with griffon engine
 
Dear caspar, would it be helpful if ill tell you of a cd rom that has the mk 14 cockpits and all.Or is it against the rules having reference from other cd`s.They are in 16 bit and 32 bit.


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